Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>I'm not sure what made Jim Henson a Disney Legend. Why, because he sold his company to Michael Eisner? What's legendary about that?<< More that he created the company and characters. Disney has given Legend awards to other people who did significant things at companies that were later acquired by Disney (Barbara Walters for her work at ABC in the 70's comes to mind), so it only make sense that Henson should get one as well. True, his creations have done little while under the Disney label, but the work he did to create them shouldn't be discounted because of how they're currently viewed. In the big picture, he did a lot for part of the current Walt Disney Company, so it's fitting that he's honored for it. I also agree aobut the event being whelming (not overwhelming, not underwhelming, just whelming). I think that's a different discussion for a different thread, but I feel like I got my fill after only one day (today), and have little interest in thinking about another Expo right now.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, my sisters and I had the opportunity of attending the D23 Event this year but decided to let ourselves be captured and tortured by the Horned King, deep in his dugeons, instead. ORGOCH: Yup, we all 3 agreed it'd be the less painful of the two!
Originally Posted By sjhym333 And what did you do in NYC. I travel there several times a year for fun. Do some shows, visit some friends, eat some good food and have a couple of drinks.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I went to Tokyo Disney Resort this past weekend.. Saw the new kick-arse Dreamlights floats, the new summer only water shows, TDS' Fantasmic, bought lots of unique souvenirs from TDL/TDS (like their park exclusive Cd's for the new Dreamlights floats and "Table is Waiting" show)..and ate soome of their special summer menus. All while some rides had up to 180 minute wait times. I know it's not related to this topic... but HEY!! There is life outside WDW..and of much better quality. *crickets* at WDW indeed.
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations I went to Tokyo Disney Resort this past weekend.. Saw the new kick-arse Dreamlights floats, the new summer only water shows, TDS' Fantasmic, bought lots of unique souvenirs from TDL/TDS (like their park exclusive Cd's for the new Dreamlights floats and "Table is Waiting" show)..and ate soome of their special summer menus. All while some rides had up to 180 minute wait times. I know it's not related to this topic... but HEY!! There is life outside WDW..and of much better quality. *crickets* at WDW indeed.<<< "sigh"...
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Staggs came off like Gore in the '00 debates. Holy.....And since WHEN has an Imagineer EVER EVER worn a SUIT ala Bruce Vaughn??? Bruce, your hot, but WDI is not some country club organization.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer *Imagineer dresses casually* Imagineers are so unprofessional. Dress up and look presentable. Sheesh, does the Disney Look not apply?! *Imagineer dresses up* Seriously? A suit? SUIT?! How dare he look professional. There is no pleasing the Laughing Place.
Originally Posted By Manfried <<They are consumed with playing to the addiction, rather than defeating the competition.>> Boy does this hit the nail on the head on what is wrong with Walt Disney Imagineering, Disneyland, WDW and all the hard core fans.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> *Imagineer dresses casually* Imagineers are so unprofessional. Dress up and look presentable. Sheesh, does the Disney Look not apply?! *Imagineer dresses up* Seriously? A suit? SUIT?! How dare he look professional. There is no pleasing the Laughing Place. << You know what? If a substantial project had been announced for a WDW park (much less a couple of parks), I doubt anyone would be commenting on the deficiency of the execs' public-speaking abilities or the Imagineers' attire. But, you see, Disney threw a big party and forgot to provide any entertainment. Metaphorically speaking, of course. I realize they trotted out costume characters to celebrate the occasion. Very exciting.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "*Imagineer dresses casually* Imagineers are so unprofessional. Dress up and look presentable. Sheesh, does the Disney Look not apply?! *Imagineer dresses up* Seriously? A suit? SUIT?! How dare he look professional. There is no pleasing the Laughing Place." That was my thought as well! While I am quite critical of the modern WDC, that is just clutching at straws and seems to be reaching to find fault. Also, I want HMB to quantify what of Vaughan is hot. He said, "Bruce, your hot," Your hot what? Unless he meant, "you're hot"?
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "But, you see, Disney threw a big party and forgot to provide any entertainment. Metaphorically speaking, of course. I realize they trotted out costume characters to celebrate the occasion. Very exciting." Believe me, there are a couple of grown adult men here that, for THEM, this would be ENOUGH! Never will understand the appeal of bored Anaheim teens dressed as cartoon characters that make some forty year old men act like five year old children. A bit strange, if you ask me!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> I know it's not related to this topic... but HEY!! There is life outside WDW..and of much better quality. *crickets* at WDW indeed<<< And one doesn't need to go to a Disney Park to see it. Why does EVERYTHING have to be Disney? ...he said on a Disney board. (But he still has a point... a hobby is a hobby, a obsession is a whole other matter.) Why is he still speaking in 3rd person? He feels like the Witches of Morva.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Never will understand the appeal of bored Anaheim teens dressed as cartoon characters that make some forty year old men act like five year old children.<< Creepy, honestly. Never been one for MGs.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer <<You know what? If a substantial project had been announced for a WDW park (much less a couple of parks), I doubt anyone would be commenting on the deficiency of the execs' public-speaking abilities or the Imagineers' attire. But, you see, Disney threw a big party and forgot to provide any entertainment. Metaphorically speaking, of course. I realize they trotted out costume characters to celebrate the occasion. Very exciting.>> Oh, I see. You guys are looking for something to whine about. The only thing you could resonably complain about this presentation for is the lack of announcemnts. So, now you grasp at straws to tear the whole presentation down.
Originally Posted By ChiMike I don't think so. I'm not looking for something to whine about, because frankly, I knew this would be the result. Haven't chimed in on this thread, but I wanted to point out that not everyone just wants to whine. I had no faith in them prior to D23, I expected to have no faith in them after D23, and here I am now with no faith in them. So not really a biggie. Oh, and I said the dwarf coaster would only have one real show scene over two months ago, right here on this very forum. For some reason no one latched on to that one. Owell, again, no whinning, not a biggie. Par for the course as far as I am concerned for WDW.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I'm pretty sure I latched on to your comment about the lack for show scenes for the Dward coaster, ChiMike, duckling. That's why I've been so disappointed with it ever since. On another thread there's a video of what it's supposed to be like. To me it's very disappointing. Makes a cauldron girl wonder why they even bothered to half-theme it to Snow White's dwarves. They really only make cameo appearances. I'd rather have them keep the current Snow White dark ride if that's all they're going to do.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: What's a dward? ORWEN: It's a dwarf with who's a ward of the state.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Actually, a d-ward is a ward of Disney. They are kept gainfully employed at the theme parks by dressing up in character costumes to keep otherwise bored 40 year old men acting like excited five year olds. Seriously, though, I was able to talk briefly with Tom Staggs on Thursday evening. I asked if there would be any surprises in the Parks and Resort presentation. He was quite forthright, and said not really. He pointed out that right now, there are more ongoing projects than at any other time in WDI history. (DCA, FLE, Shanghai, and the DCL Fantasy head the list.) That aside, we did get a few new things in the presentation. The Fantasy Faire at Disneyland had been nothing more than a long dead rumor. The details on Shangai's castle was news to anyone I know. We also got definitive images and details on the Dwarf coaster. That anyone doesn't like what was announced is one thing. But the idea that there was nothing to the presentation is just not true.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> He pointed out that right now, there are more ongoing projects than at any other time in WDI history. (DCA, FLE, Shanghai, and the DCL Fantasy head the list.) << Just confirms that Parks and Resorts expanded too much and too quickly over the past 15 years. It says volumes that the busiest period in WDI history sees three WDW parks being totally neglected.
