Originally Posted By avromark ^^^ I do agree, these days we here about the rights of the criminals, what about the rights of the victim? I mean should a criminal be allowed to sue because he tripped on a toy car left in a house he broke into?
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy ^^^Yeah, I've heard of actual things similar to that. It's ludicrous. If you're caught doing something illegal, you have no rights IMO. Although I don't know when SPP's situation took place...Ashley Judd's was probably circa 1980.
Originally Posted By avromark I was still in single digit years then. Heck I only had one sibling in 87. Although I was beat up by bullies in school quite badly once.
Originally Posted By pecos bill I think SPP showed remarkable restraint in not killing the guy. I hate criminals, but especially those who physically hurt someone. They should be turned into fertilizer.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>I was offered another shot at the guy before the paramedics came<< At the risk of being told I have angry hart, good for you, SPH! I too am sick of hearing about the "rights" of criminals.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<At the risk of being told I have angry hart, good for you, SPH!>> LOL, catfish. I have often felt a lot of hostility from you. ;-) After seeing my step-dad hit my mom a lot when I was little, I definitely go into fight mode instead of flight. When I was in the 2nd grade my mom was ill and passed out. I woke up and thought my dad hit her and I literally attacked him. Thinking of how tiny I was compared to him is kind of funny now (well, almost funny). I was afraid for her but I don't remember being afraid for myself. I don't know if I'd be able to control myself if I caught someone trying to hurt my kids. Kind of scary to think about.
Originally Posted By avromark ^^^ But it's scary to think someone would attack anyone especially children. Do I feel sorry for someone who started the wrong? Probably not as much as I do the victim. I was once in a supermarket, two people after me in the line I was in robbed it, you don't know how happy I was that I didn't purchase the lottery ticket at customer service and just left. I was still loading my car when they left.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Excuse me?? What kind of justice system do we have when a perverted CRIMINAL has a right to press charges on the wronged party?? How backwards is that?? Jeez, I'm not one for violence, but you'd think that any parent whose child was a victim or attempted victim would have the right to "teach a lesson"!<< I suppose that the rationale here is that it is up to the Justice system to deliver appropriate punishment for a crime, otherwise we would become a nation of lynch mobs.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I just don't see it. You're a perverted creep trying to molest a young girl, but you can press charges if her justifiably infurated-and-disgusted mother hits you. Kinda makes me wish Naomi had said, "Fine, we'll see just how many charges he wants to press when I charge him for child molestation!" or somethin'. Frankly, I like hearing that sometimes when a criminal gets caught, a victim or a loved one can "take 'em to the woodshed" in a not-so-friendly reminder that their actions will NOT be tolerated. It's just a little human justice for Good, imo.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I just don't see it.<< Don't get me wrong. I think that anyone who harms a child should have an an anchor tied around his/her neck and be thrown into the ocean. But the law of the land is that individuals cannot puruse personal revenge. It is the job of the courts to punish criminals. Perhaps we feel that the courts have become too soft on criminals. If that is the case then we need to elect tougher judges. But the last thing we need in this country is mob rule.
Originally Posted By ClintFlint2 ///I think SPP showed remarkable restraint in not killing the guy./// The way I see it SSP criminally overreacted by going far beyond using reasonable force on the assailant or intruder. SSP continued to use force AFTER the attacker was unconscious. If I were on a jury I would vote "guilty". Do I morally blame him? No way, never. I have not been in a situation like that so I might have even gone further than SSP, who knows maybe even to the point of killing. SSP committed a crime by using unnecessary brutality on another person, I say, but good for him and us anyway because maybe there is one less gangbanger out there who would cause problems. It is interesting how the lines between hero and criminal can blur.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ An interesting and thoughtful post. Too bad you didn't have the stones to post it using your usual screen name.
Originally Posted By ClintFlint2 Well, RT using my usual or original screen name is impossible. I don't know why but my "normal" screen name of "ClintFlint" was removed so I now went with "ClintFlint2"
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Sorry... I didn't recognize the name ClintFlint. When I clicked on ClintFlint2 and saw it was a first post by a user registered today I figured we had another of the many sock puppets that have appeared lately.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip It is rather odd though that when I do a LaughingPlace.com Google search on ClintFlint nothing is returned, yet when I do it on any other user name I get links to a bunch of posts they've made.
Originally Posted By ClintFlint2 I hope there won't have to be a "ClintFlint3" but if there is I guess you will know it's me(unless someone out there reads this and creates that name and takes my "cyber identity").
Originally Posted By ClintFlint2 "It is rather odd though that when I do a LaughingPlace.com Google search on ClintFlint nothing is returned, yet when I do it on any other user name I get links to a bunch of posts they've made." Like I said the name "ClintFlint" was either removed, no longer authorized or kicked off by the staff. When I tried to log in it was disallowed and I don't know why.
Originally Posted By jonvn If this guy beat the criminal after he was already subdued, then he's probalby in trouble. You can't do that. However, how much trouble is really questionable. Maybe he could be found not guilty by reason of insanity, because such a thing would make anyone crazy. He could be sued, and he might even lose, but he could be considered only 1/10 of 1% at fault and pay ten cents. Or he could win, because if not for the provocative actions of the criminal, none of this would have happened. All sorts of things can happen.
