Originally Posted By dshyates I think RSR is going to be a lot more fun and a LOT prettier than Test Track. 2012 will be an interesting year in the best themed attraction category with both Transformers and RSR coming online. Just from it's massive themed environment my money goes on RSR. But both are new versions of older ride systems. I think 2012 will be a good year for themed attractions in the LA Basin.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Please tell me which coaster at Uni meets the qualification of "complete immersion." (And that's not even MY standard.)>> IDK, I would count Mummy since I don't count its coaster portion as bare steel...And even then, with that standard Disney's only themed coasters are BTM and RNR.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Many advanced AAs. Fully realized scenery inside a detailed showbuilding. Improved Test Track ride system. Racing feature. What's not to love? Revolutionary? Doesn't have to be in order to be just awesomeMMMM It's all been done before. Sure, it'll be fun. ...but the fact that it pales in comparison to other... ventures... by other companies, makes it seem a little less than expected. And the fact that it's Cars does it no favors. At all.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>I think RSR is going to be a lot more fun and a LOT prettier than Test Track. << That's not hard to do! LOL. ..But honestly, I will take Test Track in EPCOT 1000000000000000 times over RSR. At least TT exhibits something, and in that, at least meshes with EPCOT's purpose. The theme, the aesthetics, and the subject on exhibition are a totally different issue.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I agree with the "Cars" sentiment. Yeah, I know, I KNOW it's Lassetter's thing and all. Does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me, however! The first was the only Pixar misfire for me(and MANY others), thus far. Not even going to mention the sequel as it doesn't exist, as far as I am concerned.
Originally Posted By CDF1 I don't find anything wrong with either the Hulk or the Dragons coaster - the Hulk is kind of a gaudy and comic book interpretation of the out-of-control transformation of the character and after the launch the immediate inversion certainly helps to disorient the rider to say nothing of the 6 or 7 loops along the way; the Dragons coaster does attempt to create the sensation of two creatres flying around and occasionally sparring with one another. It's hard to imagine such rides being built without a track so perhaps my comment about exposed track in an earlier post was unfortunate. Yes, Disney has set a particular standard for themed coasters with BTMRR, EE, Matterhorn; they have also done a great job with indoor coasters in Space Mountain and RnR coaster. Disney took a ride concept (your standard freefall type of ride from a Six Flags) and themed it to the hilt for their Tower of Terror franchise. Both Disney and Universal have done wonderful things with dark rides involving boats and vehicles of different sorts coupled with physical and animated components. These type of attractions are simply not what you find in most all other amusement parks.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>The first was the only Pixar misfire for me(and MANY others), thus far. Not even going to mention the sequel as it doesn't exist, as far as I am concerned.<<< Same here. Not seeing it. Not paying attention to it. It's just not happening. Ready for MI2.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>...but the fact that it pales in comparison to other... ventures... by other companies, makes it seem a little less than expected. << Does it really pale? Won't know 'til it's done. I suspect it will match up reasonably well. >>..But honestly, I will take Test Track in EPCOT 1000000000000000 times over RSR. At least TT exhibits something, and in that, at least meshes with EPCOT's purpose. << I'll just let that go. Impossible to debate that sort if thing with an Epcot zealot. lol
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I'll just let that go. Impossible to debate that sort if thing with an Epcot zealot. <<< That doesn't mean I like it, Lee. But it certainly fits better than cartoons in the American West.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I'll bite. I what way does Test Track demonstrate a hopeful look at the future? Isn't that the intent of Future World?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Test Track doesn't really fit into what Future World is supposed to be...but Cars fits in worse. i'd take the lesser of 2 evils.
Originally Posted By CDF1 Wasn't Future World at Epcot really a set of corporate sponsored Disney shows in the same vein as the '66 New York World's Fair? Exxon Universe of Energy General Motors World of Motion Generel Electric Horizons United Technologies Living Seas Eastman Kodak World of Imagination Spaceship Earth - can't remember sponsor Test Track came about because (1) Disney had the technology and (2) GM was willing to sponsor the ride. Not much in the way of a futuristic theme in presenting how cars are presently made ....
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Wasn't Future World at Epcot really a set of corporate sponsored Disney shows in the same vein as the '66 New York World's Fair?>> Right. it was supposed to be a constant World's Fair that would have showcased the technology of the future. Unfortunately, it's dipped in that regard, but is still easily the best park in WDW.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>But it certainly fits better than cartoons in the American West.<< What? Are we talking about the same thing? >>Test Track doesn't really fit into what Future World is supposed to be...but Cars fits in worse. i'd take the lesser of 2 evils.<< Well yeah, Cars in Future World...no thanks. Of course not. Cars in Radiator Springs...perfect. It's gonna be awesome.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Well yeah, Cars in Future World...no thanks. Of course not. Cars in Radiator Springs...perfect. It's gonna be awesome.>> Yup. Would love to get something similar for DHS with a different theme, but I'm not holding my breath.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///(Radiator Springs Racers) ride system isn't new. The AA's aren't new. The scenery will be detailed. It'll be a nice ride, but nothing revolutionary./// Just because an attraction doesn't use an original ride system or AA's certainly does not preclude it from becoming a masterpiece. I've seen a few "revolutionary" attraction elements that blew big time(Monsters Laugh/Crush Talk, beatle video and pouring marbles on Universal's Mummy) and I've seen ones that have been damn cool(vanishing Shiriki)as well. Also, if you're worried about the Test Track ride system, you need not be. The best attraction on Earth uses it(Journey to Center of Earth).
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I what way does Test Track demonstrate a hopeful look at the future? Isn't that the intent of Future World?<<< It's not futuristic, it's not optimistic, it just shows modern tech.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Wasn't Future World at Epcot really a set of corporate sponsored Disney shows in the same vein as the '66 New York World's Fair?<<< 1964 World's Fair. And yes, it was. Nothing wring with that. Better living with technology, and a optimistic view of the that future. EPCOT has strayed from that. Sadly.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>What? Are we talking about the same thing?<<< Yes... I don't want Cars in Test Track, and neither do you!
