Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "However, I wouldn't recommended that businesses close simply out of a well-meaning desire to show respect. When it is safe and practical to do so, all businesses should reopen." Which is what I said, safe and prudent. Two descriptive words that don't describe Japan right about now.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I am listening to a live stream from an English speaking Japanese broadcaster who is saying that Tokyo is actually quiet and normal right now. Not dangerous. No panic. People are cleaning up and moving on.
Originally Posted By Mr X Tokyo Disneyland is located in Chiba prefecture. Don't let the proximity to Tokyo fool you, going into Tokyo was a shock for me because things were so much more relatively normal than here at home in Urayasu. The shelves are still bare, water is still scare, and infrastructure will take a long time to repair. Naturally, I wouldn't know any of that if I weren't seeing it with my own eyes. It may seem logical to say "Tokyo is fine, why can't they open Tokyo Disneyland", but that's not the way things look first hand.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Tokyo Disneyland wasn't closed "out of respect," and it doesn't remain closed because of some misguided sentimentality. The place is badly damaged, it's going to take at least another week to assess the full damage, and even after the exact steps that need to be taken have been decided on, there is the distinct possibility that those steps may need to wait as other, more important projects take priority. TDL appears to have suffered no material structural damage. We do know, however, that liquefaction caused a great deal of damage to surface paving, landscapes, and small structures. Engineers need to assess what hidden damage has been done. The information has to be analyzed, decisions have to be weighed, and a course of action must be set. All this is happening against a backdrop of power outages, aftershocks, and the threat of failure at multiple nuclear plants. Even if the course of action is set within a week (which seems very unlikely), it is still unlikely that the necessary time, personnel, and resources will be devoted to TDL. Northern Japan is a high, high priority. Thousands of bodies have yet to be recovered, basic necessities need to be supplied, and people need to be able to resume their regular lives. It seems unlikely that the average Japanese citizen just now would understand why anyone is seriously focused on how quickly The Haunted Mansion will be reopened.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Yes, there is a very real reason that it's closed. I have seen all the photos and read all the statements.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost "I just can't imagine the economy of Japan is so dependent on TDR that they need to hurry to re-open." I am sure that the nation of Japan couldn't care a squat at this moment if TDL is open or not...but they will. Unless we are assuming that Japan is now dead and will be deserted shortly, they have to look beyond this natural tragedy and to the future...much like New Orleans did. How about the Cast Members who are deprived of income because to some it doesn't seem right that they should be open. Beleive me...as soon as people will go there again they will be open and they should be open. The quicker they can get back to some semblance of normalcy the better. That doesn't show disrespect to those that have suffered, it show that life must go on and it will. TDL will probably lose money, and a lot of it, initially but they need to be there for their Cast Members that have already lost so much.
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 out of curiousity why are you so against America longhorn? I think we do a great job during disasters. Even in Katrina people took others into their houses. We also raised money with our church, people went down there to help.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***How about the Cast Members who are deprived of income because to some it doesn't seem right that they should be open*** You keep repeating that as though anyone said something of the sort, and if so I haven't read it except in the context that it wouldn't be appropriate to divert heavy equipment and manpower to fixing an amusement park when it is so life and death desperately needed elsewhere at the moment. Besides, as I wrote in a new topic, TDR is actually being USED for emergency purposes at the moment, certainly something the folks in the planning meetings were growing aware of or already knew about when they decided to announce a lengthy closing. I really think you need to drop the subject at this point. Neither you nor I not anyone on LP knows the full story, and we can only assume that the people calling the shots are doing the best they can and that we're in no position to be second guessing them without even a fraction of the facts at our disposal.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Unless we are assuming that Japan is now dead and will be deserted shortly, they have to look beyond this natural tragedy and to the future...much like New Orleans did*** I don't recall too many New Orleans folk talking about the future when people were still trapped in the Superdome. That's where Japan is at right now (still rocking through another aftershock as I type, a fairly big one though we're just tending to ignore them at this point...water in the bathtub sloshed over and the ceiling lights are rocking fairly violently right this moment).
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I think we do a great job during disasters. << The looters sure do a bang-up job, that's for sure. True, there were some very nice Americans who helped out during Katrina, but when you compare that to the government response ... yeesh! And I'm not so sure that we would do much better now. Probably worse - since every move any government organization made would be an opportunity for the other side to score political points. Side note: I hear the Chinese press is really slamming the government there because of how much more prepared Japan was than China for their last big quake.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I wonder if this quake should be of any concern. <a href="http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc00023fx.php" target="_blank">http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear...23fx.php</a> It's a 6.1 that hit West of Tokyo near Mount Fuji. It's depth was only 1km. I wonder if this is an aftershock or part of a new event. Very strange things are happening. I would like to see a USGS discussion of the recent activity.
Originally Posted By Malin *** Tokyo Disneyland wasn't closed "out of respect," and it doesn't remain closed because of some misguided sentimentality. The place is badly damaged, it's going to take at least another week to assess the full damage, and even after the exact steps that need to be taken have been decided on, there is the distinct possibility that those steps may need to wait as other, more important projects take priority. *** Unless your on the ground surveying the damage for yourself, how can you make statements like the above. You have no idea how badly anything at the Resort has actually been damaged. So stop speculating until we get the announcement on the 21st of March.
Originally Posted By Malin *** I wonder if this is an aftershock or part of a new event. Very strange things are happening. I would like to see a USGS discussion of the recent activity. *** We are seeing some very unusual things happening in that entire region. Australia had all that flooding earlier this year. Followed by the New Zealand Earthquake and now all the stuff happening to Japan. Its just heartbreaking to see all this happening on the other side of the World.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Unless your on the ground surveying the damage for yourself, how can you make statements like the above. You have no idea how badly anything at the Resort has actually been damaged. So stop speculating until we get the announcement on the 21st of March." Malin, your affection and evotion to the park is admirable, but even from afar, it's rather easy to make statements like that. Large portions of Japan are simply gone and some that aren't are still shaking violently on a regular basis. The nuclear issues threaten the entire country. TDR could be in pristine shape, but when so many people are without food, water, power, shelter, medicine, etc. all resources are going to be devoted to them, not a theme park. The unfortunate truth is that the country probably isn't done yet being damaged and destroyed. Until all that subsides, TDR is very low on the priority list.
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Originally Posted By brotherdave Mr. X, I hope you and your family stay safe. My thoughts and prayers are certainly for those that are lost and for all the survivors who now have horrible, horrendous hardships to face. The theme parks can wait and most likely will eventually re-open when the time is right. But as Disney park fans, it's only natural that many of us of course are interested in what will become of them. But for right now, all attention should be on what is important right now - rescue, safety, rebuilding, and survival. Please keep us updated on you and your loved ones. I pray things don't get worse for you and the rest of Japan.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Unless your on the ground surveying the damage for yourself, how can you make statements like the above.<< No need to be anywhere but right here, like you, safe, warm and dry in the USA, to make the following statement: "The place is badly damaged..." I saw what there was to be seen in on line images, and the fact that they are taking a minimum of a week to simply assess the damage indicates this is more than just a matter of restocking the shelves at the Emporium. "...it's going to take at least another week to assess the full damage..." At the time the statement was posted, this was the announced timeline from authorities at TDL. "...and even after the exact steps that need to be taken have been decided on, there is the distinct possibility that those steps may need to wait as other, more important projects take priority." This is just a restatement of what folks on the ground in Japan have been saying. There's nothing negative about saying that the resumption of operating hours at TDL is not, perhaps, a top priority in Japan just now. That's all.
