Damage "irreparable"; TDR to close permanently

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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    I'm reminded of an interview I saw with Lorne Michaels about the decision to resume Saturday Night Live after 9/11. There was a lot of trepidation about whether it was appropriate to do something as irrelevant as a tv comedy show while responders were still pulling bodies our of the Trade Center site.

    I think Rudy Giulani was right when saying that things will only start to return to normal when we allow ourselves to start doing normal things again.

    In true SNL fasion Lorne asked Rudy if they were allowed to be "funny"...and Rudy replied, "why start now"?

    TDR needs to reopen at some point just as the local ice cream shop or movie theatre needs to reopen at some point. The question is, when? And, while there is still uncertainty about the nuclear situation it just doesn't seem like it is time to make that decision quite yet.
     
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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    And, I apologize but the gravity of the topic makes Dalmations seem a little irrelevant right now.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Yeah. I think so too. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By Malin

    *** He never said that, though. He said there was no indication they were claiming "minor damage", they were simply assessing the situation. ***

    Go to post 24 where he states: Tokyo Disneyland wasn't closed "out of respect," and it doesn't remain closed because of some misguided sentimentality. The place is badly damaged, it's going to take at least another week to assess the full damage, and even after the exact steps that need to be taken have been decided on, there is the distinct possibility that those steps may need to wait as other, more important projects take priority.

    I am not disputing that Urayasu is not a disaster area. My thoughts continue to go out to all the people effected by last weeks event. But I don't think it helps making statements like the Resort is badly damaged when we had yet to see any evidence of it except for a few online pictures. The official word coming from Disney and OLC was that there was no major damage and until we heard something else, speculating about it and coming to our own conclusion's was pointless.

    All I requested he do was not make statements like the above until we know more. Yet he or she has continued to argue there case with me.

    Mr X you more than anyone must be tired of people speculating about crap at the moment. You guys are in the middle of picking up your life's and are having to deal with a real life crisis of radiation coming your way. Every time you turn on the TV the news seems to be worst. I just wish we stopped the fearmongering and speculation for now. The Govement may have elevated the crisis to a 5. But thats not to say the danger is any worst than is was a few days a go, sorry I'm just wanting to put a more possitive spin on the situation for now.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    >If it helps the World Media have turn there backs on this story and are focussing all its attention now to whats happening in Libya with the recent UN Announcement for a no fly zone.<

    I'm not sure where you're at, Malin, but CNN is devoting about equal time to the Japan sitch and the Libya sitch.
     
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    Originally Posted By Malin

    I'm in the UK, as of right now the International version of CNN is covering the Libya crisis and whats recently happening in Yemen. Fox News, BBC, Sky News all running Libya and Yemen as the main stories. All our National Papers have for the first time since Friday of last week dedicated the front pages to Libya and not Japan. The Japan stituation is still a big story but media interest does appear this side of the World to be declining at the moment.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    >>...the parks are built over a basement of sorts. So no one can assume one way or the other what went on down below...<<
    Which is why it is, indeed, best to wait and see what the people who are actually there are saying before drawing any conclusions about how quickly they should reopen.

    The damage to the main parking lot was the specific reference I made when stating the Resort was "badly damaged." It is also true that we had no idea to what degree liquefaction had occurred, whether inside or outside the theme parks. The photo of the entrance showed standing water and a fairly large quantity of silt.

    So I feel far from foolish, particularly in light of today's announcement from the OLC that they will remain closed for the foreseeable future. Hope no one here feels that's "fear mongering" or "speculation."

    >>The Govement may have elevated the crisis to a 5. But thats not to say the danger is any worst than is was a few days a go, sorry I'm just wanting to put a more possitive spin on the situation for now.<<

    Good. Keep spinning those positive thoughts.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Malin, from where most of us sit, the only ones intent on arguing and proving they were right are you and Spokker Jones.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Oh, and thanks again, Mr. X et al for keeping us informed.

    (What, no dalmatians?!?! Here in the States I guess no sacrifice is too small...!)
     
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    Originally Posted By Malin

    *** The damage to the main parking lot was the specific reference I made when stating the Resort was "badly damaged." ***

    But the parking lot is very rarely used. This would had never effected the possible reopening of the Resort. Lee even said this on another thread.

    *** So I feel far from foolish, particularly in light of today's announcement from the OLC that they will remain closed for the foreseeable future. ***

    But not because of damage, right?

    We have expected since last week that the Resort will not open until Japan can get its Energy crisis under control.

    *** Malin, from where most of us sit, the only ones intent on arguing and proving they were right are you and Spokker Jones. ***

    Why continue to reply to my post's if thats the case. I don't need to prove I'm right anyway. And I can't speak for Spokker Jones but please don't try and make me out to be some kind of villian on here. I'm not the one making false claims on here. Just trying to correct them, thanks.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Just trying to correct them, thanks. <<

    You are not in charge of correcting people, and neither is he. And even if you are, you have already done so. Several times.

    And with every post you sound more and more like a couple of unrepentant aspies for whom being right is more important than having a bit of human decency.

    This is not 4chan. Both of you, shuddup!
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<But the parking lot is very rarely used. This would had never effected the possible reopening of the Resort. Lee even said this on another thread. >>

    Malin - that isn't what I said as far as I recall. I stated that it would be possible for OLC to rely solely on the two parking structures for cars but it would still be a problem for coaches as they use the surface lots.

    Granted that the majority of guests arrive at the resort by public transit but that doesn't mean that motor transportation is not important - bus traffic is used to get cast members and guests around the property - it is still a consideration.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Anyone here know about the statement that there is a major "basement" under the Tokyo parks? It would have been a huge expense to do this, as the water table is so high. Or is it done Florida style, as a "first floor," with the park structures above?

    If this is the case, it would do much to explain the lack of major damage inside the parks, despite the damage in the immediate surroundings.
     
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    Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

    Hey, Mr. X., can I ask you about this quote?

    "Heard the blackout will start from 6:20, then 6:30, now possibly 7pm...I suppose it's all up in the air, but for now we have lights and the ladies are enjoying their dinner. :)"

    How do they notify you of the blackouts? It seems, by your post, that they can change things on the fly. How do they keep you informed, and how often?

    I was going to ask you how Little X was handling the whole situation too, and you did describe her asking questions and being scared. I'm sure it's a lot to process.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>How do they notify you of the blackouts? It seems, by your post, that they can change things on the fly. How do they keep you informed, and how often?<<

    Oddly enough, I can answer this one from my nice safe seat in Orange County, CA.

    The blackout times for each area are being announced regularly on all the Japanese media, and on the power company's website. <a href="http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031713-e.html" target="_blank">http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/pres...3-e.html</a>

    If it turns out the blackout isn't necessary (because of less-than-expected demand), they delay it, shorten it or don't do it at all.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<Anyone here know about the statement that there is a major "basement" under the Tokyo parks? It would have been a huge expense to do this, as the water table is so high. Or is it done Florida style, as a "first floor," with the park structures above?>>

    There are no utilidors - the parks are marginally raised above the existing landfill.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< Anyone here know about the statement that there is a major "basement" under the Tokyo parks? It would have been a huge expense to do this, as the water table is so high. Or is it done Florida style, as a "first floor," with the park structures above?

    If this is the case, it would do much to explain the lack of major damage inside the parks, despite the damage in the immediate surroundings. >>>

    I have no idea what the actual construction technique used inside the TDR parks is, but I wanted to point out there are more possibilities than the above: there could be some sort of foundation that things sit on without requiring a basement or that everything be built up a story.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< How do they notify you of the blackouts? It seems, by your post, that they can change things on the fly. How do they keep you informed, and how often? >>>

    We had rolling blackouts here for a day a few weeks ago. I can attest to how disruptive they are to just about everything. I can only imagine how disruptive they'd be going on for 6+ weeks.

    As far as how they announced them here, I have a special indicator light in the ceiling of each room: "On" indicates normal power operation, and "off" indicates that a blackout is in progress :) No advance notice.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***Hey, Mr. X., can I ask you about this quote?

    "Heard the blackout will start from 6:20, then 6:30, now possibly 7pm...I suppose it's all up in the air, but for now we have lights and the ladies are enjoying their dinner. :)"

    How do they notify you of the blackouts? It seems, by your post, that they can change things on the fly. How do they keep you informed, and how often?***

    Well, Maw explained some of it. The rest of the info comes in the form of loudspeaker info across the city (in fact, after this last backout they immediately loudspeakered the fact that tomorrow's planned blackout was cancelled).

    It's a bit weird, but hey...it beats getting stuck in an elevator I suppose!

    ***I was going to ask you how Little X was handling the whole situation too, and you did describe her asking questions and being scared. I'm sure it's a lot to process***

    She has been showing signs of stress over the past couple of days...I'm trying my damnedest to "stay strong" and not scare her any further, but it's hard under the circumstances. I've been asking her from time to time to let me know how she's feeling. I think for the moment, that's the best I can do.
     
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    Originally Posted By Christi22222

    What's the status of your living situation? You had said you were going to move soon, but I can't believe that can still be the case. Is everything just on hold for the moment? Is all of your stuff in boxes making this doubly hard?
     

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