Originally Posted By Ohana <<<no I don’t think the theming will collide with each other! Not everything has to match, besides that’s the whole idea of it to get the feel that your in a different land or area>>> thanks, im aware of what different lands are. what i said was it will be interesting to see how they all collide. thats a lot to all come into one small area - the wharf, the winery, cars land and bugs land. we shall see.
Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA >>The paradise pier loop makes me want to kill puppies and kittens.<< OOO don’t say that!! it’s not that bad, just learn to tune it out!! And the theme-ing, I am the builders/contractors/Disney designers have found a way to make everything come together but yet have each of the lands different from the next.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Nicely put, WD. I had my first visit to DCA since December 2002 just this past Friday and I was surprised how crowded the park was and how long the lines were. I had some time to do some people watching around Grizzly Peak (still one of my favorite areas at DLR) and to appreciate how nice the area looks with the more mature vegetation. I was also pleased to see Aladdin still playing to a packed house. Waiting in line for an hour to ge on TSMM, I saw the Pier packed with people, and the carny games actually doing some business. The park had a much different feel to it than it did in 2002. The crowds gave it the energy it lacked back then, and all the major construction gives it a sense of greater things to come. People were smiling and laughing, and I think that there is a sense of familiarity and comfort among the guests now that wasn't there before. It'll be a few years before I go back, after Ariel's Adventure and Carsland are open, but I expect that it won't feel anything at all like the DCA I visited in 2002.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> thats a lot to all come into one small area - the wharf, the winery, cars land and bugs land. we shall see. << Of course I'm looking forward to the additions coming to DCA, but I think you touched on something that doesn't get as much consideration as it should. You mentioned three separate areas smack-dab in the center of the park that have no significant attractions. Pacific Wharf is a highly themed food court. The winery is a pricey dining and drinking spot that's often closed altogether. And 'Bugs' is a kiddyland with rides that only the littlest toddlers can enjoy. That's a lot of centrally located square footage devoted to not very much. When you add in the wide performance corridor, the vineyards and the space taken up by the stale but enormous 'tough to be a bug', it begins to seem like the entire center of the park is a kind of 'dead zone' with very little entertainment value for most of the park's daily guests. It all looks pleasant enough, there's just not much to do there.
Originally Posted By phruby I take a different point of view. I believe that if the internet wasn't around back in 2001, DCA wouldn't get the same bad rap as it did. If sites such as these weren't around with rampant fanboys critizing ever little detail, it wouldn't have had bad word of mouth. I believe DCA actually does fairly well when your inside the park. People are happy and there are long lines. It's getting passed the negative taste before you enter the park that fanboys and the press have drilled into people's minds is the problem. What bothers me is if these changes for 2012 are sucessful will Disney say "Its popular now. We don't need a phase 2." If that happens, the park will look half way between old and new. Of course, if it isn't popular, Disney could say "why pour more money into it?" I think with the amount of people that visit the resort, they have no option but to keep expanding. But how will the quality be?
Originally Posted By mousermerf So the general consensus is that we have pretty much zero faith in phase II occurring because Disney will try to wiggle out of having to do it no matter the result of phase I. Awesome.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 They might, they might not. I think the general consensus is "don't consider it a done deal just because they've floated the possibility." ALWAYS a wise attitude to take towards any of the parks.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Oh I bet they'll do it, they wouldn't want to leave half done with the other half undone. By the way, has there ever been any mention as to what changes could come in phase 2?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I take a different point of view. I believe that if the internet wasn't around back in 2001, DCA wouldn't get the same bad rap as it did. If sites such as these weren't around with rampant fanboys critizing ever little detail, it wouldn't have had bad word of mouth." Amen.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt There will be a "phase II" simply because the only place left for any significant long term growth is at DCA. DL is packed to the gills most of the year and DCA has the potential to be just as busy.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Just saw this pic of Carsland in LP Live window: <a href="http://www.laughingplace.com/showpic.asp?filename=http://laughingplace.com/files/live/big/0010610-65852.jpg&caption=Looking+into+Cars+Land+from+Fun+Wheel" target="_blank">http://www.laughingplace.com/s...un+Wheel</a> Oooh Aaah...
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Am I the only one who doesn't care for cars? I'm not talking the movie, I mean cars in general. Could care less about cars, never would buy a brand new car and I can't stand ever even having a car payment.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I think this is a strategic move by Disney Constance to exploit one of the few franchises that Disney has that appeals to boys. Most of the character stuff they have is too girly and precious for words.
