Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct What is GGB? I am happy to hear some landscaping will be incorporated by the entry murals. It is well needed.
Originally Posted By bean darkbeer you just have a vendetta against Marcie and that particular website becuase you were asked to leave. You defend lutz so much it would almost seem he pays you to do so. you and your constant rambling against many people in diferent boards is pathetic. All you do is atteck people everywhere an some you do are quite high up in the Disney ladder believe it or not. We just have a good laugh everytime you post. Al, Jim and Marcie have quite alot of good information mostly true but at diefernt levels of development but you just don't understand that.
Originally Posted By mstaft Darkbeer has a true love for the parks and want to see them get better. I appreciate Darkbeer's photo updates and FastPass help- and I find your insights interesting. I do not like it when the attacks get personal between anyone, Darkbeer, Marice, Al, or anyone else...
Originally Posted By jmuboy I am not sure I want the GGB to go away. The CA letter and the GGB and the Murals look cool. I like them. It's the Sun Court that really needs work/renovation in my opinion.
Originally Posted By juicer I agree jmuboy...The GGB and murals do look cool and that the suncourt is real area that needs fixing
Originally Posted By Nemo88 <<<<darkbeer you just have a vendetta against Marcie and that particular website becuase you were asked to leave. You defend lutz so much it would almost seem he pays you to do so. you and your constant rambling against many people in diferent boards is pathetic. All you do is atteck people everywhere an some you do are quite high up in the Disney ladder believe it or not. We just have a good laugh everytime you post. Al, Jim and Marcie have quite alot of good information mostly true but at diefernt levels of development but you just don't understand that.>>>> well said Bean! you read my mind.
Originally Posted By Nemo88 and its a good thing the rest of us are not keeping track of Al Lutz and his track record,if we did,Lutz would have to "eat crow" daily."over the shoulder restraints on Splash Mnt" anyone? so lets grow up a bit,eh Darkbeer?
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct <<We just have a good laugh everytime you post>> That seems cruel - and please don't speak for me - I do not laugh at his posts. back to DCA I think the tile work is beautiful on the entry mural. Now.. if there was lush landscaping to accompying them - that would be ideal. I can almost see some dense "shrub-esque" folliage coming out of the top of the murals. The redwood trees sound AWSOME !!!!!
Originally Posted By SuperDry Wasn't there talk about extending the redwood forest theme from near GRR all the way to the hub, replacing the "high desert" theme around Soarin' that didn't resonate with people? I wonder if this might be extended all the way to the entrance. Having an entrance that looked like the area around GRR would be quite a site - it would definately make DCA look unlike any other theme park from the entrance, and maybe this is just what it needs to entice more people inside.
Originally Posted By Westsider The Grizzly River Run area is DCA at it's most attractive, and it ranks right up there with the best of other Disney parks around the world. Unfortunately, the vast majority of DCA does not live up to the high standard set by the Grizzly River Run/Challenge Trail area. Too much of DCA is too similar in design language to a really nice strip mall in an affluent neighborhood. I've even seen some strip malls and shopping centers in south Orange County that look better than big sections of DCA. If they could get the DCA entrance area from the turnstiles to the hubcap up to the level of the Grizzly area thematically and design wise, it would go a long way in helping the tarnished reputation DCA has of being a "park done on the cheap". It would also make the park more attractive looking from the Esplanade and would likely drive more interest in visiting the place from locals who were just going to go to Disneyland for the day.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct << It would also make the park more attractive looking from the Esplanade >> lol ... yes two words baby ... CURB APPEAL
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> to the hubcap << I wonder if Tim Delaney ever winces when he thinks of the schlock he created back in 2001. Of course, I really wonder what goes through the mind of the developer of Superstar Limo. As for Eisner and Braverman, I wouldn't be surprised if even today they sit around totally perplexed that people criticize DCA. "Huh? Huh?," I can envision them saying. "Paradise Pier is perfectly Disneyesque! Muholland Madness looks great! The park's theme is wonderful! People who don't like DCA are full of beans!"
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I wonder if people who like to complain about lack of creativity recognize the irony of their saying the same dang thing over and over and over for nearly five years.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher I also envision Eisner and Braverman saying, "I wonder if people who like to complain about lack of creativity recognize the irony of their saying the same dang thing over and over and over for nearly five years." After all, if those two had the competency to recognize what a series of blunders DCA would be, from around the time of the Aspen conference onward, they'd have happily scrapped plans and started anew.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Many of us recognize DCA's weaknesses. We also recognize its strengths, and the fact that it was built on the MGM model (its biggest mistake - the DLR demographic is very different from WDW's). But we try to talk about different things as the park evolves. Different topics. Different emphases. Different use of language. "Competence" is also a concept that can apply to posting on message boards: i.e. not saying the same dang thing over and over and over for nearly 5 years.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> "Competence" is also a concept that can apply to posting on message boards << Oh, please, Dabob2. I recall your reactions being rather positive towards DCA -- certainly far more than I felt it deserved -- going back to 2001. In other words, that colors the way you'll respond when it's judged and criticized.
