Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>And it's far better than anything the competition has to offer.<< In YOUR opinion.... Just had a great day at Six Flags Magic Mountain, and headed back in the morning, and if we have time, stopping at USH for the tram tour on the way home.... Plus planning to go to Knott's on Saturday. IMHO, DCA is at the BOTTOM of the SoCal theme parks! Heck, even LEGOLAND is adding more stuff faster than DCA is.....
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>oc_dean .... You didn't mention TOT.<< Thanks for enquiring ni_teach ... ToT might as well be added to my bottom list .... It does not last long enough to be enjoyable. At a whopping 2 minutes and 10 seconds (half of that time the drop sequence) ......... It just reminds of an old Peggy Lee line: "Is that all there is?" This huge monster attraction, millions poured into it ... all the hype as an "E Ticket" ....... It should have at least 3 "show room" sequences that go on at least 3 minutes, alone. At least the one in WDW is an actual ride, and is twice as long since it has the 5th dimension room.
Originally Posted By WorldEpcot So ToT isn't an actual ride just because it's fifty seconds shorter. Sure, it's shorter, but it still provides thrills and fun and most importantly, a story. The length of a ride doesn't determine if it's a ride it not. ToT is a ride, and a darn good one. It's no suprise you think different.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "It does not last long enough to be enjoyable. At a whopping 2 minutes and 10 seconds..." Which is about the same length as Peter Pan's Flight. Is that not enjoyable too? The double standard continues....
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> The double standard continues.... << Unlike DCA's TOT, I didn't realize Peter Pan's Flight was categorized as a major E-ticket type of attraction, one that occupies a lot of land and is visible from a good distance.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I grew up on the immersive attractions of Disney: Adventure Thru Inner Space (6 minutes 30 seconds) America Sings (24 minutes) America The Beautiful (20 minutes) Captain EO (19 minutes) Submarine Voyage (10 minutes) Mission To Mars (15 minutes) Enchanted Tiki Room (17 minutes) Horizons (15 minutes) World of Motion (15) Space Ship Earth (15) original "Journey into Imagination" (15) .... yada, yada ... my list can keep going forever ... but I think anyone interested in reading gets the point. The point behind most of Disney's major "E Ticket" attractions (and ToT HAS been built up as an E, we all know that) ... are experiences that last long enough to engrose ourselves into the whole experience. Two minutes just does not cut it. Even Space Mountain (a roller coaster) clocks in around 3½ minutes. Bringing up Peter Pan into this discussion isn't fair because it was never build-up to be a "E Ticket" extravaganza like many adventures that last a minimum 3 minutes 30 seconds. It's a "C Ticket". Even the Matterhorn could use another minute of travel time. >>The length of a ride doesn't determine if it's a ride it not. << Ahhhh .. did I say that? My point is DCA's, TDS', WDSP's are all a "space shot" vertical shaft only .. and don't really ~travel~ anywhere else .. like the original in WDW does. I mean come on ...... this thing brings up to floor #1 ... The mirror image where we turn into blue blobs .. and ... okay .. It's over quickly! Move onto floor #2 where the guest from 1939 disappear, the best in effect in the whole ride goes for about a minute at best ...... THAT'S IT! The rest bunny-hop series of drops. End of ride. 2 minutes 10 seconds! BORING. That's all I can keep saying to myself over, and over ........ Boring and WAY too short. ToT is a waste of my time ... Give me the immersive rides that I can fully enjoy that aren't over in the blink of eye. That's not how Disney built up their legacy. Imagine a Pirates of the Caribbean or Haunted Mansion that last 2 minutes. They would be one heck of boring ride to be that short. You can't expect your senses .. your mind to absorb into an experience that is too short. Now if Peter Pan was rebuilt into a larger facility and got the "E Ticket" hype .. and it remained it's short time span .... then it would deserve some flack.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Unlike DCA's TOT, I didn't realize Peter Pan's Flight was categorized as a major E-ticket type of attraction, one that occupies a lot of land and is visible from a good distance." We were not talking about ticket categories. The discussion was about the validity of an attraction's enjoyment base on its length. Once again, you are attempting to hijack the conversation with your convoluted logic. "Now if Peter Pan was rebuilt into a larger facility and got the "E Ticket" hype .. and it remained it's short time span .... then it would deserve some flack." Yet, at 2 minutes Peter Pan is one of DL's most beloved attactions, despite not being Pirates or Indy. Your argument about attraction length makes some sense, however it isn't entirely valid, and Peter Pan is a case in point.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Whatever! I know for me .. the rides that get the most attention from me are those where I'm allowed adequate time to really engrose myself into whatever exotic imaginative world it is. I'm not interested in high-jacking this topic .... And the subject was brought up not by me, so remember that! .......... back on topic.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I'm not interested in high-jacking this topic .... And the subject was brought up not by me, so remember that!" It was disneywatcher I was refering to, not you dean.
Originally Posted By disneymomsons yes... let's stay on topic.... it's supposed to be who LIKES DCA??? There are a lot of us who do.... (and as far as Knott's.... we went just a couple of weeks ago, and my kids thought it was BORING !!! Even the adults we were with wanted to go early. So, everyone has thier own taste I suppose....)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>and my kids thought it was BORING !!!<< HA! :O) I can buy that. Knott's is not that bad. But compared to Disneyland .. well .. we know we can't (for example) compare the rudimentary human size figures on Timber Mtn. Log Ride to the advanced stuff we see in Pirates of the Caribean
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle Darkbeer, you're right, that is my opinion. And I stand by it. Knotts, SFMM, and USH are all fun parks to visit, but they don't have the "Disney" charm to them, and that's what attracts me to DL and DCA. DL does it much better, but DCA does have that same feel. Again, just one person's opinion...
Originally Posted By disneymomsons I agree with you Moon Waffle.... it's the "Disney charm" that most of us go for.... it truly is magical, and you are right... that feeling IS in DCA... IMO... I think DCA has some growing to do, but, that just seems like part of the fun of it... watching to see what they do next ! I think it is exciting, myself. I just don't understand how cynical some are about DCA... it's a place to go for fun with the family, and I think they do pretty good at that job ! Would I like to see more attractions at DCA? SURE !! The more the better ! But to bash it all the time like some do.... I guess I am just not that way. Our family likes this place and we appreciate having such a fun place to go to. It's good fun for all who enjoy it........
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Once again, you are attempting to hijack the conversation with your convoluted logic. << My convoluted logic and your bad taste in themes parks, Hans, make a powerful combination.
Originally Posted By WorldEpcot With someone's hatred of DCA but apparent love of both KBF and USH, taste really should be questioned on this forum...
Originally Posted By Socrates Every time I visit DL, I visit DCA. Every time I visit DCA, I enjoy myself. And I prefer DCA to anything available in my local area. Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By Mitten I am a fan of DCA, but lately I don't enjoy staying there for long periods of times. I visit there everytime I go, but I only stay there for short visits. I remember just a little over a year ago spending most of my weekends there. But thats when DUH was there and I would catch their shows, and in between sets ride rides or watch Aladdin. I miss those days and would love to see a return in that, but I don't see any changes that would change that.
