DCA, finally delivering us to the Ritz!

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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "an awful lot of this sounds like the same Disney Decade stuff we were shown at the Anaheim Convention Center in 2/90"

    What I'm thinking, too. We'll see just what gets done after this first wave. Supposedly floated out there is the idea that after 5 years, they will re-examine the whole thing.

    I suspect they want a spike in the current rise in attendance. If they get it, great. If not, oops. And if they get a bit of a spike, but not what they thought would be enough? Well, you might not see anything more after this either, other than a few things here and there.

    Nothing is written in stone.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    **And recently the conversation turned to the new Nemo land being kicked around for the back corner of DisneySea.**

    What's wrong with that?

    Finding Nemo, an adventure movie about traversing the ocean...

    At DisneySEA...

    Yeah...that's out of place.

    <---rolls eyes.
     
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    Originally Posted By Skellington88

    >If they're GOING to "cartoon" the place...at least do it with quality.<

    That is exactly what they are doing at DCA yet you are complaining. Little Mermaid has a budget around $100 mil and Radiator Springs Racer twice as much. Yet you complain that these DCA changes are dumb??
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    <<And recently the conversation turned to the new Nemo land being kicked around for the back corner of DisneySea. OLC wants as many Pixar characters as it can get for DisneySea, according to them.>>

    And that's FINE!!! Nemo is A. a fish who lives in the SEA and B. A land that is strictly devoted to this one character and not have him thrown in the middle of American Waterfront or anything the way they threw Nemo in Tomorrowland ;).

    Besides, they already did something like this at opening....it's called Mermaid Lagoon ;).

    Actually, if ANYTHING, this is the best place to put the character and maybe if they are creative enough, they can actually highlight Australia/Sydney a little bit as another 'port' since that city does have a MAJOR harbor and where you can catch Nemo and his friends who are actually IN Australia and not some lame tie in that they are doing at DCA with the Little Mermaid ;).

    Actually I always imagined Australia/Sydney to be TDS next major new port assuming they ever made one and now they might have the chance to make my dream come true in a way :).
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    LOL, I should read all the posts next time before I post. I see Mr. X already beat me to stating the obvious :D.

    Morning Mr. X!!
     
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    Originally Posted By Skellington88

    >>^^If they all happen.

    Not to dump water on anyone's DCA Rebirth Parade, but an awful lot of this sounds like the same Disney Decade stuff we were shown at the Anaheim Convention Center in 2/90 ... a good 3/4ers of which never made it anywhere but coffee table books on Imagineering.

    The fact that except for Midway Mania and World of Color, no exact dates for anything have been given (oh, the preview center too ... and one must wonder why they need to wait a year to open such a simple thing) does give me reason for pause.

    I've become very skeptical of big Disney announcements. I remember Disney's America well ... and the original proposal for DAK ... and even the Burbank Backlot in the late 1980s.

    Show me.<<

    I got two things to say to you: Steve Jobs & John Lasseter. If Lasseter really is "one of us" and really cares about quality and loves the parks...he will not let this plan fall apart and he is backed by Steve Jobs, Disney's largest individual shareholder and a highly respected business leader.

    Why do you think all the disney nerds were jumping for joy back in January 2006 because once Steve Jobs and Lasseter got together with Bob Iger the possibilities just opened up like crazy. Once the announcement hit things like eleborate Tokyo quality makeovers of the american parks, the wand coming down, the return of 2D animation, etc. all entered the realm of possibilities becaues now Disney would have a management team that really cared about Disney quality and running the company right. Which we have not seen since Frank Wells, Katzenberg and Eisner took the reigns of the company back in 1984.
     
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    Originally Posted By Skellington88

    >>not some lame tie in that they are doing at DCA with the Little Mermaid ;). <<

    Um Gusher...you do know the Little Mermaid ride at DCA is going to take a dump all over mermaid lagoon at disneysea right? Mermaid lagoon is a bunch of c-ticket kiddie rides in a wellthemed building. Little Mermaid at DCA will be grand family e-ticket with a budget close to $100 million dollars (Think a highly themed Haunted Mansion calibur attraction) and feature animatronics and advanced special effects.
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    And BTW, if Nemo's little tiny left fin actually makes his way to TDS, this will be the FIRST Pixar character represented at that park in terms of an attraction, the first. There are currently z-e-r-o there now, so yeah, spread the love a little ;).

    Besides, nobody is saying we don't want ANY Pixar characters and attractions, not at all. But just not the freakin overkill that DCA is getting either!! I mean SOME is nice, but DCA already has 5 different attractions (and I'm counting FFF as one here) and by the time the additions are done, that we KNOW of, it will have at least 4 more NOT including some new Pixar parade that will replace the OLD pixar parade. There will be TWO lands with multiple attractions, a 3D movie, 3 separate attractions in two other lands and two different parades, all from a total of 4-5 movies!!! I mean christ, enough is enough!!

    And maybe if this stuff fit the theme just a tad bit better, maybe there will be less outcries on it too. I mean I'm glad the lame idea of Ratatouille somehow ending up in PP was bad enough and was glad it was dropped (for now anyway). I have a sneaking feeling though they are just waiting for another Pixar film to drop for something different soon.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    **Australia/Sydney a little bit as another 'port' since that city does have a MAJOR harbor and where you can catch Nemo and his friends who are actually IN Australia and not some lame tie in that they are doing at DCA with the Little Mermaid ;).**

    AWSOME idea, WorldDisney. I love it!

    AND, you also replied to Skellington about why DisneySea is different from DCA (he has comprehension problems, poor kid), so I don't have to. :D

    **Um Gusher...**

    Who're you calling "Gusher"?

    WorldDisney?

    Whatever, punk. You have no clue how much WorldDisney knows about the whole situation or the fact that he has actually BEEN to every single Disney park in the world except one...unlike YOU.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    **Steve Jobs, Disney's largest individual shareholder and a highly respected business leader.**

    Steve Jobs, for all his good points, ain't much of an investor.

    Did you know he actually SOLD millions of dollars worth of Apple stock when it was around $2 a share?

    Know how much it is now? Close to $170 a share.

    Oops.

    Owning Disney stock in the past five years has been really foolish...hardly any improvement at all (before five years ago was a totally different story thanks to Eisner and his grand visions...lots of people got rich but should have sold by now).
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    **you do know the Little Mermaid ride at DCA is going to take a dump all over mermaid lagoon at disneysea right? Mermaid lagoon is a bunch of c-ticket kiddie rides in a wellthemed building.**

    Wrong. Ignorant comment right there, but not surprising since you've never seen the place.

    Mermaid Lagoon IS for kids (um, I think they call it Flik's Fun Fair over in that place YOU like to gush about).

    However, you have missed the fact that it also contains the coolest kids zone ON THE PLANET (my daughter spends HOURS in there every visit), and one of if not THE greatest theme park show. I actually HATE Disney theme park shows personally, really they bore the crap out of me.

    Two exceptions. Rhythms of the World was cool. And Mermaid, which is my ONLY must see show every time I go to that park.

    But you're forgiven, since you've never been there and obviously don't know much about the place.
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    <<Um Gusher...you do know the Little Mermaid ride at DCA is going to take a dump all over mermaid lagoon at disneysea right? Mermaid lagoon is a bunch of c-ticket kiddie rides in a wellthemed building. Little Mermaid at DCA will be grand family e-ticket with a budget close to $100 million dollars (Think a highly themed Haunted Mansion calibur attraction) and feature animatronics and advanced special effects.>>

    Um, A. That's not my point. The POINT is LM belongs in DCA about as well as Nemo fits into TL, PERIOD!! Mermaid at TDS is a perfect match and syncs perfectly with the theme and the surrounding lands and beautifully builds into the whole 'under the sea' motiff as you litterally are walking underground to discover this undersea world. It's exsquitely done! It also has one of the best Little Mermaid shows done from any park and is one of the many hidden jewels here not to mention a play area of Ariel's 'home' that competely outdoes any of these types of area's save TSI. Its melds inside AND out beautifully. At DCA, this attraction is being shoehorned in a place that has litterally has steal roller coaster across from it. I don't care how much money the attraction itself cost.

    And Um, B. I already said it, multiple times, including this thread where I said I am EXCITED for this attraction and its a welcome addition despite the out-of-place issues and defended it here as such and can't wait to ride it when it opens ;).

    And C. See what you did calling me a 'GUSHER' Mr. X :mad:.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    **my ONLY must see show every time I go**

    My only "must see" show out of all the Disney parks in the world, not just DisneySea. ;)
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Yeah, post 52 by big WD shows exactly why Skell is the 98 pound weakling being pummeled by the heavyweight champ.

    Perfectly explained, WD.

    From this time forward, WorldDisney has earned the right to never be called "gusher" again!

    Mr X has spoken.
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    LOL Mr. X, you beat me AGAIN!!!!

    That's what I LOVE about discussion boards. One minute you are fighting to the death disagreeing with someone (like the beginning of this thread), next post, you are 100% in sync with that person again lol.

    'Good night' dude. Yep, JUST going to bed. Talk 'tomorrow'.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    lol.

    Drunk again, huh?
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    ^^LOL, no, actually writing something that DOESN'T involve LP for a change ;). Think you know what I'm talking about!

    'Night', but just a few hours!
     
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    Originally Posted By TDR_Fan

    Sorry, but no way on God's green Earth is the Little Mermaid attraction at DCA going to even come close to the visual feast and immersive masterpiece that is Mermaid Lagoon at TDS. You wouldn't know since you've probably never even stepped foot inside. Such a shame as TDS is the greatest Disney park in my opinion. All these changes are going to make DCA an excellent second gate, I'll admit that. But to say it will put TDS to shame is just ignorant and outrageous.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    I knew I was going to enjoy clicking on this thread again as soon as I saw "TDR_Fan" as the last poster. :p

    How's it going, TDR_Fan? Any plans to stay at the Mira Costa coming up soon?
     
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    Originally Posted By TDR_Fan

    LOL. I've been biting my tongue ever since TDS was first mentioned in this thread, but I just couldn't keep silent anymore ;).

    And I'm not returning to TDR until July, unfortunately. I'm planning to split my visit between the new Tokyo Disneyland Hotel and the MiraCosta.
     

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