Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "What is it that I'm suggesting??" That the park failed and Disney is continuing to invest billions, no?
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I've lined out the ways several times over the course of this topic, but I'll try again. On the big picture front, the park expanded to where it was feasible to do multi-day visits. << I appreciate you taking the time to reiterate a few things. THANK YOU!! From the point of view of the outer-towner ... when DCA was brand new. But on a "sustained" level, longterm? With all the bad word-of-mouth? I'd be interested to see the exact figures for multi-day passes, in DCA's first several years of operation. >>On a more personal scale, there were (and are) several attractions that give DCA value to me - Soarin', the Fun Wheel, the Animation lobby, the Aladdin show, Tower of Terror, and more recently Mermaid and Toy Story Midway Mania. True, there should be quite a few more attractions, and there soon will be. But I still enjoyed my time in DCA, flaws and all. And while I keep saying that the place WAY underperformed, I still enjoyed it, and spent plenty of time there. << Comparing to DCA of today .... Yeah ... some of the 1.2 Billion Dollar improvements are here to enjoy now. My posts thus far ... have been targeting DCA from 2001 to 2007. When it's attraction mix, then, was rather weak. And lastly, just a simple: ... thanks Dan .
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>The 2fer1 argument is baseless, because the promotion benefits DL as much as it benefits DCA since the purchaser has to buy a DL admission and visit that park in order to get the free ticket to DCA. It's not like they were just giving away tickets to DCA for free.<< Okay ... whatever. You want to call it baseless .... say what you want. It's just a discussion board. For others .... It's a very interesting thing that was unprecedented! In the history of Disney theme parks ..... I've never seen or heard of offering anything .. as to offer the second park for FREE. That was just unheard of,in the history of DL in 50+ years!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>That the park failed and Disney is continuing to invest billions, no?<< Alright .. I'm lost ... I don't know where you are at now ... and whether I'm mincing words or you are....... My point .... the park was crap ... few went ... and they had to inject funds to make it a park people will go to. Can I say it any simpler than that?
Originally Posted By crapshoot Actually, I find it singular that Eisner pedicted that TOT would be the final addition that would turn DCA into a blockbuster park.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<When did DCA have a Stomp show?>> Oopsie-Poopsie, I meant Blast, not Stomp. The point is that Disney shelled out anywhere between $5 & $15 for each guest who watched these shows. "Hyperion Theater shows2001, Disney's Steps in Time: Musical revue featuring songs from various Disney films. 2002–2003, The Power of BLAST!: Adaptation of the musical Blast!"
Originally Posted By oc_dean Match a line to this face: <a href="http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/gallery2.aspx?gallery=4430&photo=9fdb4f90-c9f4-4b7c-b7eb-0a4d5a04e798" target="_blank">http://entertainment.msn.com/p...5a04e798</a> ;-)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>The point is that Disney shelled out anywhere between $5 & $15 for each guest who watched these shows.<< I lost count the number of times I saw Blast at the Hyperion! Surely .... at 5 to 15 bucks a person ... I cost Disney the price of the current Premium AP! HA-HA!!
Originally Posted By crapshoot My favorite annecdotal piece of evidence that DCA didn't perform anywhere near expectations was that it's operating hours were from 10am to 6pm for most of its life.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "My favorite annecdotal piece of evidence that DCA didn't perform anywhere near expectations was that it's operating hours were from 10am to 6pm for most of its life." Has anyone here argued that it's performance met expectations?
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>What more proof do some need to see the park was a disaster?<< But was it a TOTAL disaster...? (Now, let everyone rush to various dictionaries and the thesaurus to bolster their point of view...)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >> But was it a TOTAL disaster...? << How many brand new theme parks close 6 of their restaurants all within a couple short years of operation?? 1. Maliburritos 2. Hollywood & Dine 3. Soap Opera Bistro 4. Mondavi 5. Wolf Gang Puck Not to mention Lucky Fortune Cookery which was often closed ...... (6)
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>How many brand new theme parks close 6 of their restaurants all within a couple short years of operation??<< How many brand new theme parks have such a high restaurant/attraction ratio? Epcot may have, but that's the only one I can think of. Most have far more attractions than eateries; at DCA it seemed like they were about even. It's pretty telling that they simply had way too much food capacity, since they still haven't reopened a couple of these locations in recent years (Maliburitos, Hollywood & Dine, Soap Opera Bistro), despite the huge jumps in attendance. I never heard a bad review of any of those restuarants, so that wasn't the problem. They simply screwed up the balance of what they needed for the park, which (to quote berol) isn't a total disaster, it's just bad. (Side note: was Boardwalk Betsy's considered to be the same location as Maliburitos? They had separate signs and queues, but the only time I was there while they were open, they were only serving from one side but had all the menu items)
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub If introducing a new Disney to an entire new audience and making them feel like Disney is speaking to them ...then DCA was a huge success. I think this timeframe opened a whole new world to many different ethnic groups. It captured their hearts and wallets.
