Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Christie will never be elected POS because he is a terrible liar and today's press conference proved it. >>> Indeed! By his own performance in this matter, he clearly isn't qualified to even hold the office he's currently in: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/voters-shocked-christie-botched-such-an-easy-polit,34909/">http://www.theonion.com/articl...t,34909/</a>
Originally Posted By SuperDry ... and, the powers that be in the GOP base are clearly pleased by this turn of events, as it makes it more likely that one of their extreme candidates will get the nomination in 2016. It's very easy to take the temperature on this matter by looking at how the noise machine is covering the situation. If they promote it, then it's clear that Christie's not their guy. If he were, the story would be buried or at least marginalized as much as possible. Just look how any story concerning John McCain was handled in the mid-200x's, right up until when it was clear he was going to win the nomination.
Originally Posted By mawnck >> If he were, the story would be buried or at least marginalized as much as possible. << Wellllllll …. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/01/09/report-fox-news-buries-christie-bridge-scandal/197505">http://mediamatters.org/resear...l/197505</a> >>On January 8, Fox devoted less than 15 minutes to the New Jersey bridge closure scandal, compared to more than two hours each on CNN and MSNBC.<< Pundits on the other news channels have been commenting on it. (Note: I think my feelings on Media Matters are well known, but this one would be hard for even them to screw up, assuming they can work a stopwatch.)
Originally Posted By SuperDry That's interesting. I was going by just what Drudge Report was saying. Things like this are usually fairly coordinated with what Fox News is doing, so I made an assumption.
Originally Posted By mawnck Well, as the article notes, Roger Ailes is a big fan of Christie, so that might enter into it.
Originally Posted By ecdc Now Fox News is covering this as an example of how Chris Christie is a strong leader, and his tough response is the opposite of Obama's weak-kneed response to his many "scandals." <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-crackdown-ups-scrutiny-over-obama-scandal-response/">http://www.foxnews.com/politic...esponse/</a>
Originally Posted By skinnerbox David Corn and Kevin Drum at MoJo pretty much nailed Gov KrispyKreme as a bully. Eight videos of him belittling individuals for no reason whatsoever: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/chris-christie-bullying-videos">http://www.motherjones.com/moj...g-videos</a> The part that scares me the most is the background applause from folks in the audience of these events when Christie goes off on someone. They're actually cheering Christie for being unnecessarily rude to someone he disagrees with. And his explanation for justifying his rude behavior in the second video is very disturbing. Precisely the kind of behavior you should never see from an elected official towards his/her constituents. Ever!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < and his tough response> Tough response? "I didn't know a thing and I'm the real victim here?" Really? Some wag on line called it a "Me-Me-Me Mea Culpa."
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Now Fox News is covering this as an example of how Chris Christie is a strong leader, and his tough response is the opposite of Obama's weak-kneed response to his many "scandals." >>> Wow - that stands in stark contrast to Drudge Report, which has been leading with "ROAD TO WHITE HOUSE CLOSED?" for the past day or so. There really is deep division on the Right regarding Christie.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I think "Roger Ailes is a big fan of Christie" is probably the salient fact.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "David Corn and Kevin Drum at MoJo pretty much nailed Gov KrispyKreme as a bully." Gov KrispyKreme!! OMG... LOL. Do you mind if I use that?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox You can thank Stephanie Miller for that moniker. I'm not quite that clever. LOL!
Originally Posted By skinnerbox So Governor KrispyKreme has been lying through his effn teeth, thanks to investigative reporting by the WSJ: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/09/1268413/-Andrew-Cuomo-needs-to-put-the-last-nail-in-Christie-s-coffin">http://www.dailykos.com/story/...s-coffin</a># <> In what seems like ages ago in the Chris Christie Gina Close-a-your-bridgeda scandal saga, the WSJ reported something that looked exceptionally fishy at the time; that Christie had talked with Andrew Cuomo and asked him to get Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, to back off investigating the Fort Lee bridge closure. Mr. Christie, a Republican, complained in a private phone call to Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, that Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was pressing too hard to get to the bottom of why the number of toll lanes onto the bridge from Fort Lee, N.J. was cut from three to one in early September, according to this person. The lane closures occurred without notice to local authorities, officials have said, and snarled traffic for a week in the small borough on the Hudson River bluffs. According to the WSJ story, that phone call was the week of December 12. Yeah. Kind of makes Christies little press "performance piece" this morning look like the firehose of lies that it actually was. Among the mounting stream of evidence that shows Christie knew damn well what was going on, this one would seem to be the final nail in the coffin. And it's very easily proven ... if Governor Cuomo has the backbone to be a proper partisan and put his boot on Christie's neck. He doesn't have to do it personally. Heck, the WSJ would be HAPPY to report the facts if they just got the nod ... they're the ones with the connections to "a person familiar with the matter," which by the sound of it has to be someone in Cuomo's office anyway. Ball is in your court, Andy. End Christie's political career. <>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Wow. Not looking so good for Gov Krispy. Have you seen this new ad funded by the DNC?: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0RfDjmvthM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...fDjmvthM</a>
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Rachel Maddow posited a very plausible theory for the motivation behind the bridge closure on her show last night: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/09/rachel-maddow-chris-christie_n_4572367.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...367.html</a> <> MSNBC's Rachel Maddow on Thursday presented a new theory why New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) may have wanted to close George Washington Bridge lanes -- a festering feud between the governor and Democrats over state Supreme Court nominees. As the story stands, Christie's deputy chief of staff called for George Washington Bridge access lane closures that created a massive traffic jam in Fort Lee for four days in September -- a move that many have written off as political retribution for Democratic Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich's refusal to endorse the Republican governor's reelection. Maddow on Thursday presented an alternate theory, saying Sokolich's endorsement "wasn't that important." Instead, she suggested the political payback was motivated by a tiff between New Jersey state Senate Democrats and the governor. Maddow took viewers back to 2010, when Christie declined to reappoint a New Jersey Supreme Court justice, John E. Wallace Jr., for another term. The move left state Senate Democrats "absolutely outraged," Maddow explained, and they refused to confirm any Christie's nominees for Wallace's seat. "It's been a big political crisis in New Jersey," Maddow said. By last August, Supreme Court Justice Helen Hoens, a Republican, was up for renomination. When state Senate Democrats signaled they would challenge Christie's nomination, the governor said he wouldn't renominate Hoens. "I simply could not be party to the destruction of Helen Hoens’s professional reputation," Christie said during an August press conference. "I was not going to let her loose to the animals." "That was an angry Chris Christie," Maddow said. "So angry that he was doing something almost unprecedented in New Jersey: Yanking the tenure of a state Supreme Court justice, who he liked! That was an angry Chris Christie, furious with Senate Dems at a hastily called press conference that took place late in the day on Tuesday, Aug. 12, 2013." As Maddow pointed out, the press conference was the evening before Christie's deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, sent an email requesting "traffic problems in Fort Lee" to David Wildstein, one of Christie's top aides at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs the bridge. What's more, Fort Lee is represented by Sen. Loretta Weinberg, the state Senate Democratic leader. "Roughly 12 hours after Gov. Christie blows up at the Senate Democrats and torpedoes the career of a Supreme Court justice who he likes ... the leader of those 'animals' in the Senate sees her district get the order of destruction from Gov. Christie's deputy chief of staff," Maddow concluded. "Or maybe it was about that endorsement. Until someone who knows the actual truth about this speaks, it remains a wide-open question.” Christie on Thursday denied any involvement in the bridge closing, blaming his staff. <> This is obviously going to get worse for Christie. We now know that he was lying during the press conferences this week, that he absolutely knew about the bridge closure, possibly even approved it. I just don't see how his political career can survive this, at least on the national stage.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder No matter what has transpired here, calling him Gov. KrispyKreme doesn't exactly elevate the debate around here.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I have no problem whatsoever with that moniker. He's a bully. PERIOD. He treats others with a huge amount of disrespect. He deserves a taste of his own medicine.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Why does his own medicine have to be so tasty? MMMMMM KRISPY KREME
Originally Posted By ecdc >>No matter what has transpired here, calling him Gov. KrispyKreme doesn't exactly elevate the debate around here.<< +1 All the Christie fat jokes, apart from being dumb, just serve to create empathy for the man and lessen the seriousness of the charges against him. "Oh, they're making jokes about his weight? There's probably not much to this stupid bridge 'scandal' then."
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>No matter what has transpired here, calling him Gov. KrispyKreme doesn't exactly elevate the debate around here.<< Excellent point. >>All the Christie fat jokes, apart from being dumb, just serve to create empathy for the man and lessen the seriousness of the charges against him.<< Excellenter point.
