Originally Posted By leobloom >> And the reason Small World still looks like it opened from it's 2005 rehab is because it shares the same maint. crew as Mansion. They care a lot and do thier best to fix things. << Then why are there missing ceiling tiles in the first room of Small World that have been missing since the ride went down for that big refurb years ago?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> When I was there? AA problems, and huge ones. Both father and son were slumped over, but still taking. That and we got stuck, twice. Everything else looked and sounded OK, though... << Am I right in thinking that with CoP if someone gets up in the middle of a scene and exits (or if they exit within, like, two minutes of the scene change) that the entire scene replays? I think I was on the ride once where we saw the second scene three times in a row, and for some reason I was thinking it was because people kept getting up to leave (which as more people got fed up, more people left...we could've easily seen it four times in a row. Talk about magical!).
Originally Posted By HMButler79 if someone gets up and leave (i would LOVE to see how they find theier way back), the show Emergency Stops by itself, which, in turn, causes said scenes to replay again.
Originally Posted By ReelJustice What folks need to realize is that they never intended CoP to run this long. It was supposed to close 10 years ago, but capacity issues became apparent. Now, it shouldn't operate in this condition, but with abysmal park capacity, you really can't afford to refurb it properly. Perfect example of how their mismanagement has screwed up and affects everything.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///Left and right I saw their(South American tour groups) rude, obnoxious behavior ticking people off around me,/// Like what? Specifics would help.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Am I right in thinking that with CoP if someone gets up in the middle of a scene and exits (or if they exit within, like, two minutes of the scene change) that the entire scene replays? I think I was on the ride once where we saw the second scene three times in a row, and for some reason I was thinking it was because people kept getting up to leave (which as more people got fed up, more people left...we could've easily seen it four times in a row. Talk about magical!).<<< Yep. And it usually plays twice. Which happened to us. And then MORE people get up. I actually stood up and told people not to leave, and what the consequences were... to the mortification of my party. LOL
Originally Posted By ChiMike Good for you. I think folks would have the light bulb go off to once they understood what is occuring. The overlying issue though is that as calm and collected as your theater might be, the walkouts could still occur in other theaters and affect you.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I actually stood up and told people not to leave, and what the consequences were... to the mortification of my party. LOL << I bet that was a sight. But it would've been even funnier if you had been wearing a lanyard with 100 pins on it and a two-sizes-too-small WDW 2006 tshirt while clutching your Figment plush.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Good for you. I think folks would have the light bulb go off to once they understood what is occuring. The overlying issue though is that as calm and collected as your theater might be, the walkouts could still occur in other theaters and affect you<<< Nah, people didn't understand... but it wasn't too bad, just a few get ups...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>I bet that was a sight. But it would've been even funnier if you had been wearing a lanyard with 100 pins on it and a two-sizes-too-small WDW 2006 tshirt while clutching your Figment plush.<< LOL! Nah, I was quite civil... Just gave a loud "Hey, excuse me... but..." And that was it. If they wanted to continue being idiotic, let them.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "The SA groups merely laugh at you and continue" See, that's where I'd be out of a job for assaulting some of them. Two of my all time hates; People who do not listen to me when I am in a position of authority over them and, People who ruin experiences in public for others!
Originally Posted By Bolna Has this always been a problem that people want to leave during the show at CoP? I guess people don't understand that they aren't in a stationary theater, but more something like a ride vehicle.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Has this always been a problem that people want to leave during the show at CoP? I guess people don't understand that they aren't in a stationary theater, but more something like a ride vehicle. <<< Yep. If you get up, the ride will not rotate, twice. And seriously... it needs to be advertised as such. I think it would have healthier attendance if so.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Funny how COP never had a attendance or a evac problem when it was new or kept up as new, and society could actually sit still for 20 mins... ... Yet another reason to refurb. Have to keep people interested. ....and that's not an excuse to make the show ridiculous and stupid.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 If someone leave COP during mid-show in a particular theater they can clear the intrusion alarm (thats what its called) and the theater will rotate. When someone leaves the theater a CM has to walk around and make sure the doors are clear, the guests who left are safely exited and away from the theater and such. If they cant get back to the console in time then the theater will not rotate. A smart CM can actual manually rotate the theater but my guess is Disney probably no longer allows that. The problem with seeing the same theater twice is that people exiting becomes epademic and it becomes a losing battle. I remember once having CM's stamding in the theater and making people sit down so we could rotate the COP. As for Brazillian tours, I agree they are no more rowdy than American groups like on Night of Joy but it is much more a cultural diffence than rudeness. I have travelled throughout Central and South America and the loud, boistorous enjoyment of things is just part of who they are culturally. Now if you want to see rude, I found the guests at Disneyland Paris to be rude. Pushing, shoving, cutting in line. Not fun at all.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>If someone leave COP during mid-show in a particular theater they can clear the intrusion alarm (thats what its called) and the theater will rotate. When someone leaves the theater a CM has to walk around and make sure the doors are clear, the guests who left are safely exited and away from the theater and such. If they cant get back to the console in time then the theater will not rotate. A smart CM can actual manually rotate the theater but my guess is Disney probably no longer allows that. The problem with seeing the same theater twice is that people exiting becomes epademic and it becomes a losing battle. I remember once having CM's stamding in the theater and making people sit down so we could rotate the COP.<<<< Yes, exactly. We had a CM come on the loud speaker several times.
Originally Posted By Bolna sjhym thanks for the explanation about why those problems come up. I never experienced the theatre not rotating, I guess I must have been lucky to have fellow guests who were not too impatient...
Originally Posted By sjhym333 When Disney removed CM's from the theater (which made sense) they added an instrusion system on the rim of the stage as well as the doors. If the system is tripped for any reason the building will not rotate. I was a mgr in the area and had my office for a bit at COP in the old G.E. Lounge.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Time to give this thread a shot in the arm... One of the other things I'd like to talk about is the fact that WDW Engineering/Maintenance is finally in panic mode. The under staffing has reached critical levels, and to quote a friend, "We've reached Disneyland in the 90s. Things are going to get worse."
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Going to get worse? I've actually thought things were picking up in terms of upkeep. Lots of refurbs, lots of clean and fresh looking buildings. Way better than the dark days of 2006/7/8/
