Originally Posted By cape cod joe Beau and Dug--I have to agree with the Pass man on this one as Nixon wasn't guilty either> see what I mean? He's not proven guilty, BUT let's get serious here. I have defended him till now, but you have to be realistic here with the odiferous smell test.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Of course anyone on the right is going to try and spin this- it's expected. The uncontroverted truth is Delay is being investigated, there are charges being brought against him, he resigned his leadership position and then chose not to run for re-election. Up until this series of events, absolutely no one can say that Delay could best serve Republican interests by leaving office, going on lecture tours, and hosting a radio show. None of those activities has any bearing on a vote in the House or Senate, where he had previously wielded massive influence. Being the majority leader was the essence of his being. When he resigned that post, he said it was temporary. Obviously, that was wishful thinking. Now, he's right where he belongs. Just another disgraced politician whose ego betrayed him. Period, paragraph, the end.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy So it's not possible that Delay at his age was simply tired of the attacks, tired of having his life under a microscope? He steps down, a republican wins his seat, he makes millions on the private speaking circuit, and he gets to advise the GOP much like Newt Gingrich or Ollie North does. I don't see a gain for the dems here except for the fact that the guy who beat them like a bongo drum has decided to do something else. Good luck with that conviction by the way. There is nothing there.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Good luck with that conviction by the way. There is nothing there." Who cares? He's gone, he's history, he's completely irrelevant.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF >>So it's not possible that Delay at his age was simply tired of the attacks, tired of having his life under a microscope?<< Not if he's the Democratic butt-kicker you profess him to be.
Originally Posted By mele <<I love how certain people are so fast to claim someone is guilty before a trial has even started.>> HAHAHA, that's truly RICH coming from you, Beau. Did you forget all of your insane rantings about Michael Schiavo? You just don't like it when your side is accused. You RELISH it when the otherside is accused.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Just another disgraced politician whose ego betrayed him. Period, paragraph, the end.>> LOL, this coming from the guy who thinks global warming is real and that we should sign the Kyoto treaty. Delay would have won his race this fall. But he was tired of the crap. Look at what you are saying about him STPH. YOu have no evidence, as usual, against him.. yet you have no problem saying he is a scummy criminal. And you voted for Bush and call yourself some kind of " republican ". Imagine the crap Delay was going to face from the libs this fall and summer. He is withdrawing because another Republican can win his seat without the BS from the libs. It's better for the GOP plus he can still work for the GOP.. not to mention he will make tons of cash.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy << HAHAHA, that's truly RICH coming from you, Beau. Did you forget all of your insane rantings about Michael Schiavo? >> Michael Schaivo killed his wife when her parents wanted to take care of her. Michael Schaivo told his ex girlfriend he had no idea what Terry would want if she was in the condidtion she was in. Michael Schaivo had a history of violence and to this day we don't know how she " collapsed " because he won't talk about it. Delay has nothing even close to this against him except having his way against liberals in congress.
Originally Posted By cmpaley RE: Post 28 Is it full of slander or defamation? I can never keep the two separate.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I believe slander is spoken, libel is written, cmp. I think defamation can be either. What's interesting to me is that he bothered to run in his primary not long ago - and won it handily even with all the baggage. He was leading in the polls against the Dem. candidate. He obviously wanted to retain his seat, and probably could have done it had nothing new come up between now and November. Which says to me that he may be worried about just that, now that two of his former aides are being prosecuted on matters not related to DeLay's Texas troubles, and are (I think) turning state's evidence. Hmmmmm. He may well believe he'll get a better deal from the prosecutors if he's out of the fishbowl of Congress and so less of a lightning rod. Just a guess, admittedly.
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Originally Posted By mele Well, technically I brought up the Schiavo thing. I didn't want to rehash the case but to prove that Beau has no problem claiming people are guilty of crimes they haven't been convincted of. Of course, he ignored that point.
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Originally Posted By gadzuux Time wounds all heels. Patience is all that's required. The tide is turning and beau will soon have to do a lot of spinning about the upcoming GOP election losses and convictions of politicians.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< What's interesting to me is that he bothered to run in his primary not long ago - and won it handily even with all the baggage. He was leading in the polls against the Dem. candidate. He obviously wanted to retain his seat, and probably could have done it had nothing new come up between now and November. >>> Another thing to consider is that the Republican that will run for his seat will now be chosen by the party and not the voters. I would expect someone with similar ideology to be nominated, which may be very different from what the Republican voters in that district would have chosen had DeLay not been in the primary.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe very good thread here> post 30 babob--first sentence I just started laughing very droll sense of humor Keep up that humor in the midst of debate. It was particularly funny because cm seemed not to know and I think he was being facetious. I love this stuff. Beau--No offense but there is global warming; I'm not sure about kyoto as it was written; and yes Tom is technically innocent but come on? You have to see my analogy with tricky dick and him. You have to see it my good left coast friend.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Sometimes I think this board is straight out of Alice and Wonderland.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "So it's not possible that Delay at his age was simply tired of the attacks, tired of having his life under a microscope?" What a crock. He's only 59. Young to still serve some time if need be. So far no one has posted a blessed thing that contradicts Post 22.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Pass --everything is 22 is true EXCEPT he is NOT disgraced YET. That is indisputable. He is NOT yet another disgraced politician. YET!
