Originally Posted By gadzuux Just indicted for corruption and fraud, and being investigated by federal prosecutors in connection with the jack abramoff scandal. And his former chief of staff just pled guilty to felony charges of conspiring with abramoff to provide perks to congressmen in exchange for "legislative favors". Nope - no disgrace there.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Disgrace doesn't seem to be a big deal anymore. If Rep Delay is disgraced, then so is former President Clinton, and he seems to be doing fine.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Whine, whine, whine, cry, cry, cry, it's not my fault, those mean old liberals chased me out of office. Stow it, Tommy boy, you're a frickin' loser. You don't need to be convicted to be a national disgrace. Like all bullies, he turns out to be a Big Coward and runs away when the going gets tough. What a real man. Delay should get the hell away from any microphone and camera for his own good unless he wants to keep embarrasing himself. An absolute creep of a man and worse as a "trusted" public official. Go join Duke Cunningham in the chow line, big shot.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Clinton again. How irrelevant. Since Delay is undefendable, let's bring up Clinton. What, forgot about other crooked Dems?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Quite a rant, STPH. Who cares? He's gone, he's history, he's completely irrelevant.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Gad--read post 40-Douglas is right as usual. Just ONE time Gad, maybe say I may have ONE thought that may be right. Sorry for getting personal as some others here have that same phobia for giving other people credence. Not me. I love to recognize when other people are right. That' just me though.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Quite a rant, STPH. Who cares? He's gone, he's history, he's completely irrelevant." Yeah, I'm pretty proud of it. But, you don't get it, do you? It figures that you and others can't see past your partisanship here. I'd be this way no matter who resigned under a cloud, an indictment, whatever. Get those bastids out of office, whether it's Delay, Boxer, Hastert, McCain or Harkin. A crook is a crook. Myself and others take particular glee in the downfall of Delay because he was such an arrogant little pissant who flouted his position more than any other majority leader in recent memory. He was the biggest bully in a town full of them, and as I said before, he ended up being betrayed by his own ego. A little humility goes a long way, and Delay wouldn't know it if it hit him like a freight train. Good riddance to a huge loser.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Gad--read post 40-Douglas is right as usual." Total B.S. When Clinton gets indicted for the things Delay has, get back to us. Meanwhile, someone go remind Clinton to zip his fly.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Pass-- we get the message and Tom is the stereotypical holier than thou I'm a boyscout so how dare you criticize me type, but just be patient and you PROBABLY will get your Shakespearean LB.of his flesh Just not NOW!
Originally Posted By cape cod joe repeat after me 10 times Pass Flys are legal--Lying before a Grand Jury is not
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder I got my pound of flesh already. He's out of office. Whether he ends up as someone's girlfriend at Club Fed doesn't concern me. He'll plead out, loser that he is.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Apples and oranges - and you know it. Dalliances outside of wedlock are a different matter than selling votes for perks and funneling campaign contributions into money laundering schemes.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Douglas--Bill and George Sr. are both relevant and doing some very good work together as strange as it may seem.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Lying before a Grand Jury is not" You'l never catch me defending Clinton, but let's not obfuscate the issue here. Doug brings him up, as usual, to deflect off Delay. This is Delay's moment to shine, not Billy's.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe If Delay is guilty, I will really crack down on him because he was so self-righteous and believable just now looking Chris Matthews and the world-wide audience right in the eye.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Dalliances outside of wedlock are a different matter than selling votes for perks and funneling campaign contributions into money laundering schemes.> If dalliances outside of wedlock were all President Clinton was guilty of, then your comment would have a point. But President Clinton was found in contempt of court for misrepresenting the facts. And since Rep Delay is being considered guilty because of his associatiates, let's remember that many of President Clinton's associates were found guilty of felonies.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Doug brings him up, as usual, to deflect off Delay.> I brought him up for exactly the reason that I said I brought him up. To show that being "disgraced" is not what it used to be. The fact that someone felt he had to defend the former President shows that.
