Originally Posted By skinnerbox Daily Kos has video from Giffords' appearance on MSNBC last March reporting about the vandalism to her office after the health care reform vote, as well as an image of Palin's "hit list" from SarahPAC. Palin's site has since taken it down. Gee... I wonder why. <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/" target="_blank">http://www.dailykos.com/</a>
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Under the image of Palin's hit list on Daily Kos, is the following statement: "As you can see, Giffords was one of of just two members to win re-election from that list. (Rep. Nick Rahall was the other.)" I wonder if the Feds are now going to place protection around Nick Rahall and his family?
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones CNN confirmed from a federal source that the suspect is a white male born in 1988. It has been reported at various places that his name is Jared Lee Loughner. This is being passed around as his YouTube channel. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10</a> This is only a rumor at this point.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones And here he is: <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1" target="_blank">http://www.businessinsider.com...r-2011-1</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt If this guy really does have Tea Party connections I think that Sarah Palin might want to sleep with one eye open. Conservatives don't have a lock on crazy.
Originally Posted By mawnck This person ... <a href="http://twitter.com/caitieparker" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/caitieparker</a> ... claims he was a left winger. Of course, this person ... <a href="http://twitter.com/caitieparker" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/caitieparker</a> ... didn't know how to spell her "good friend's" name until the media corrected it.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones There are going to be debates over his political ideology. The right is going to stress his leftist qualities and the left will stress his right-wing qualities. There is enough evidence for both sides for bicker forever. I'd say he is more of a Libertarian nut job what with all that gold standard nonsense.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Didn't the Arizona Governor sign a law last year making it legal to carry concealed weapons without having a permit?
Originally Posted By mawnck Looks like you can even eliminate the Libertarian part: >>Well, B.C.E is yet to start for Ad to begin! What does this mean for a citizen in any country? Those illegal military personal are able to sign into a country that they can’t find with an impossible date! How did you trust your child with them fraud teachers and front runners, listener? Did you now know that the teachers, pigs, and front runners are treasonous! You shouldn’t jump to conclusion with your education plan. The constitution as of now, which is in use by the current power pigs, aren’t able to protect the bill of rights! Do you now have enough information to know the two wars are illegal! What is your date of time, listener? Fourthly, those applications that are with background checks break the United States constitution! What’s your riot name? I’ll catch you! Top secret: Why don’t people control the money system? Their Current Currency(1/1) / Your new infinite currency (1/~infinte) This is a selcte information of revoluntary thoughts!<< <a href="http://livenewswire.org/2011/01/congresswoman-shooting-suspect-leaked-military-info-online/" target="_blank">http://livenewswire.org/2011/0...-online/</a> (More at the link.) The writing style does resemble Winky's a little, but I don't think he could be classified as a follower of hers.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones For all of his rants about illiteracy in Arizona the guy has a terrible command of grammar.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa My heart goes out to one of the victims. And we should pray for the young man who is the gunman. He will need our prayers as people will be very angry with him.
Originally Posted By dshyates Ok, everything is pointing at the gunman simply being a nutjob. Politically radical, yet not aligned with ANY specific political ideology.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I remember in the prologue to the play "When You Comin' Back, Red Ryder," Mark Medoff wrote something like "It's been a long time since anything has scared me except a mad man with a gun."
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And we should pray for the young man who is the gunman." I'm not wasting my prayers on that lunatic, as if my prayers would do anything anyway. Belief in delusional nonsense has contributed greatly to the hateful rhetoric that likely drove this nutjob to commit violence. What's needed in this country is lot less prayer and a greater focus on plain old common sense.
Originally Posted By mawnck At present it's seeming like the "lunatic" is a very sick puppy ... His delusional nonsense was the genuine, mental illness type, rather than your typical angry Tea Party kook. Waiting for further reports from reliable sources. I've finally decided there's too much crap floating around out there with this story, and I need to stop analyzing incomplete and/or unreliable data.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Just a note to the mods: perhaps we could change the title of the thread??
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones CNN and MSNBC are posting snippets of his rants, so I take them to be genuine from this point on. Earlier today his YouTube channel had about 300 views. Now it has over 200,000 views.
Originally Posted By hopemax The authorities are also looking for a "person of interest." White man, in his 50s. The sheriff has said, "We are not convinced he acted alone." So that's another angle. The possibility of someone taking advantage of this guy's crazy, to do something like this.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Ny suggestion for a thread title change would be "Madman Shoots Government Officials."