Originally Posted By Labuda "My heart goes out to one of the victims." Only one? Which? As far as the loon who did this, all *I* can say is, I hope he's not subjected to state-sanctioned murder, which Arizona does have. I'd much rather see him rot in jail for the rest of his natural life.
Originally Posted By Labuda ""He wanted to impress Jodie Foster !" This isn't funny at all. Shame on you." Just more of the same from that poster. I do my best to just forget whatever he says since most of it offends me.
Originally Posted By mawnck You know, if the US had socialized medicine, this kid might have been getting some psychiatric treatment.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "As far as the loon who did this, all *I* can say is, I hope he's not subjected to state-sanctioned murder, which Arizona does have." He is most likely getting the death penalty. He killed a federal judge, a child and a pastor, among others.
Originally Posted By dshyates My guess is that his lawyer will use an insanity defense and this guy will end up in a secure hospital. There is no doubt that this guy is truly crazy, and regardless of what was pushing his buttons, he was not in control of himself.
Originally Posted By dshyates My guess is that his lawyer will use an insanity defense and this guy will end up in a secure hospital. There is no doubt that this guy is truly crazy, and regardless of what was pushing his buttons, he was not in control of himself.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo <<The people who claim to love this country the most know the least about it.>> Same is true of their psuedo-Christian views. Modern conservatism is quite a topsy-turvy ideology.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Perhaps the right to bear arms should be repealed. A form of terrorism this is too. But I bet it would never be deemed as such." Of course not. Terrorists are only dark skinned people who sometimes wear turbans, not little white kids from the suburbs.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I feel safer living in the UK then I ever did in the US." Where did you live when you were in the States? I've lived in San Francisco for 15 years and feel very safe here.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Predictably, Tea Party supporters and talk radio yakkers are busy denying any culpability for creating an atmosphere that made this possible, by playing the "he's just a lone crazy" card.<< And now this is morphing into a "this is no time to point fingers" message and that concerns about vitriol are really just people "trying to score political points" off this terrible tragedy. You got it. Those of us worried about putting pictures of Congressional districts in crosshairs, or comments about 2nd Amendment remedies, are just using this for our own political ends. The shamelessness of these people knows no bounds. I rarely use this word, because it typically has religious connotations, but people like Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin are evil. They represent the very worst of our country. Genuine evil.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>Perhaps the right to bear arms should be repealed.<<< Not all gun owners are Tea Bagger nut cases, many are reasonable people who would never in the normal course of events use their guns on anything but a non living target. But I guarantee you if you were to repeal the second amendment you will have them coming out of the wood work to join with the haters. Taking away the American right to keep and bare arms is NOT a solution. I am not advocating the right for everyone and anyone to purchase guns without so much as a back ground check.
Originally Posted By ecdc Oh, and before the usual suspects swoop in, I'm well aware that Glenn Beck didn't put anyone in crosshairs. No, he just blathered on for hours about how he "wants his country back," how "they're out to get us, " and how "he loves his country and he's scared for it." He just, with tears staining his chubby face, his frame shaking with righteous indignation, went on and on and on and on and on about what a terrifying place the United States is to live in right now.
Originally Posted By Donny There is no evidence that Loughner was a Sarah Palin fan. There is no evidence that he was associated with the Tea Party or that he was concerned with immigration. Instead, there is a steadily growing heap of evidence that Jared Loughner was suffering from a mental illness, quite possibly paranoid schizophrenia.
Originally Posted By xrayvision Terrible news. My sincere condolences to the families involved. And, I wish Safeway would take down that down that darn pharmacy sign advertising "Free Shots Today."
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Instead, there is a steadily growing heap of evidence that Jared Loughner was suffering from a mental illness, quite possibly paranoid schizophrenia.<< Unquestionably. The mentally ill are often the most susceptible to violent rhetoric. But I did find it amusing that within an hour of the shooting, tea party groups across the country had checked their membership rolls and issued statements that Loughner was not a part of their group. Why would they be so paranoid about that, I wonder? But let's say, for the sake of argument, that Loughner had absolutely no contact with the rhetoric of right-wing extremists. Let's say it just came out of nowhere. Does that excuse Palin's use of crosshairs in her posters? Or Sharron Angle's talk of Second Amendment remedies? Or Glenn Beck's egging on about how our country is run by socialists out to get YOU! Nope, it sure doesn't. But guess what? Loughner did here this stuff. We'll probably never know the exact sources. But even paranoid and delusional people get their ideas from somewhere. Loughner's anti-governemnt views didn't come from nowhere.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "There is no evidence that Loughner was a Sarah Palin fan. There is no evidence that he was associated with the Tea Party or that he was concerned with immigration." Yet.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Donny, when there's a map of Giffords' district on Palin's website and it has gun crosshairs overlayed on it, that's evidence enough for me that Palin influenced this guy and that people like you need to admit people like Palin have gone too far with the rhetoric.
