Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder So how does any of this tell voters how Allen would be a better governor than Webb?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Whatever. So I made a mistake. Try and evade this one. How does any of this make Allen a better Senator than Webb?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Sorry, I couldn't resist. To answer your question honestly, to the people who care about what Webb wrote, they think it shows something is flawed about his character.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Well, that sounds like people who were already predisposed to dislike Webb will now have another reason to do so. Still doesn't tell anyone why Allen is a better candidate.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Well, that sounds like people who were already predisposed to dislike Webb will now have another reason to do so. Still doesn't tell anyone why Allen is a better candidate. < Is that important these days any more ? Not when I see continuous comments here like: Anyone but Bush, anyone but Arnold, anyone who is not a Republican....we can't do any worse etc it appears the best candidate is the least evil, except when it doesn;t fit ones agenda, then it's a bad thing -
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Well, that sounds like people who were already predisposed to dislike Webb will now have another reason to do so. Still doesn't tell anyone why Allen is a better candidate.> Supposedly, it has made some people who were on the fence tilt to Allen. I guess those people think Allen is a better candidate because he doesn't conjure up depraved images and write them down.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I'm waiting for the backlash. I'm waiting for the Webb camp to attack Allen as depraved for bringing it up. Sort of the same "kill the messenger" technique used to attack Ken Starr during the Clinton impeachment.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < I'm waiting for the Webb camp to attack Allen as depraved for bringing it up. > Not quite the same thing, but apparently Webb has now brought up a book written by Allen's sister that details his rather crude view of women. <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0</a>,2933,225981,00.html?sPage=fnc.politics/youdecide2006 "You ought to read what George Allen's sister wrote about him if you want to read about attitudes toward females," Webb said. Jennifer Allen's 2000 autobiographical account told of growing up in a rough-and-tumble household headed by the late George H. Allen, the football-obsessed, workaholic Hall of Fame coach of the NFL's Washington Redskins and Los Angeles Rams. In her book, she portrayed the future senator, the oldest of her three brothers, as a sometimes crude and brutish high school student who once dragged her up the stairs of their California home by her hair." So let's see... Allen attacks Webb by bringing up what he wrote in pieces of fiction. Webb attacks Allen by bringing up what he did in high school. I don't think either of these guys is going to get Gloria Steinem's endorsement, but come on. Are there no actual issues in this race?
Originally Posted By gadzuux What this revelation does do is to emphasize what bad judgement allen showed by trying to attact webb on his novels. Certainly we can expect that allen read his sister's book and knew it's contents, yet still decided to use webb's books to smear him. He shouldn't be surprised to see webb respond in kind. And it's fair to guess that webb's campaign knew about the sister's biography and it's claims all along, but had the sense and taste to not exploit it as a cheap shot. That is until allen came out with his attack on webb's writings.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <And it's fair to guess that webb's campaign knew about the sister's biography and it's claims all along, but had the sense and taste to not exploit it as a cheap shot.> Sure, because the Webb campaign has shown such high-mindedness so far.
Originally Posted By gadzuux It's hard to throw stones at the webb campaign when their opposition is throwing such ridiculous and 'below-the-belt' punches.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Not to mention the crude racial comments coming from the candidate himself.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I find it funny that people are complaining about the mud hitting Webb when he's been hip deep into it since the beginning of the campaign.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://rasmussenreports.com/2006/State" target="_blank">http://rasmussenreports.com/20 06/State</a>%20Polls/October%202006/virginiaSenate1024.htm Rasmussen had this race leaning Republican, but now calls it a "toss up".
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan A lot of that tilt is due to Allen's own use of a racially offensive term on camera. He already had a questionable record on race, and he didn't help himself any by doing that.
Originally Posted By alexbook What I wonder is, did somebody on Allen's staff get paid to read all of Webb's books and find the best bits? And how do I apply for that job?
