Originally Posted By gadzuux Not me. I think it's slightly ridiculous that we're even hearing about what happened between two adults one night in bed under the covers. Pass incomplete - end of story.
Originally Posted By friendofdd I believe you gadzuux, but you are unable to eliminate all the posters who eagerly search the internet to find the "evil" things the other side is doing.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Pass incomplete - end of story.<< I really want to believe this is intended as a bad joke. Fondling someone while they're asleep is a "pass?" Or maybe just an extreme form of flirting? Or perhaps sexual harassment is just another form of social intercourse...
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I believe you gadzuux, but you are unable to eliminate all the posters who eagerly search the internet to find the "evil" things the other side is doing." Seriously though, who else does this to the extent our boy here does? A state senator from South Dakota? And it obviously isn't the first, second or third time. This is a World Event? Be honest, he posted only because it involved potentially inappropriate conduct by a Democrat, any Democrat, and his intention is paint a broad brush across all Democrats. He's been called on it literally hundreds of times, and he keeps doing it. His motives are to simply piss people, period. Very classy and a great way to promote civil discourse.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Groping someone while they're asleep isn't making a pass...it's molestation and assault.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I challenge anyone to come up one positive purpose this thread serves. Given the nature of WE and all of us players here, what possible good could come from posting about this particular topic? Ignoring the OP doesn't work as he just keeps doing it. Ridiculing him doesn't seem to work either, except to show he has no regard for the opinions of others. Why is this here, seriously??? Unless there's actually some substance, why are they allowed to stand?
Originally Posted By DlandDug If we removed every "purposeless" thread that was started here based on the OP's personal animus, WE would be a ghost town. Rather than whine about personalities, why not comment on the actual content of the issue at hand, or simply stay away?
Originally Posted By gadzuux He obviously wasn't asleep. By his own account . . . >> "He laid his hand on my stomach for 30 seconds and I was just shaking. He moved his hand down," << I don't think this qualifies as molestation or assault. He's an adult -welcome to the world of adult behavior, in all it's varieties. Does anyone think that this experience will scar this eighteen year old? Who here has never experienced a "pass" from someone of the same gender? This one seems a bit more clumsy than would be ideal, but so what? There's the issue of superior and subordinate, but those distinctions tend to fall away to not very much when you're sharing a bed in your skivvies. I still maintain this is much ado about nothing.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Or perhaps sexual harassment is just another form of social intercourse...
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm as annoyed as the next guy by DBs pointless links and sordid stories about Democrats. It's childish and promotes the kind of divisive discourse that's being discussed in other threads. Posts about Pelosi's performance or the Democratic congress and its agenda? Let's have 'em. Posts about Random Democrat #47 in Hicksburg, USA who had midget trannie porn on his computer? I think I'll pass. (That said, I'm puzzled by attempts to merely label this "human sexuality". I could care less what your sexual preference is; you don't go around grabbing other people in the crotch without them first showing some interest.)
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Or perhaps sexual harassment is just another form of social intercourse...>> Welcome to the world of adult behavior. So, he's a longtime family friend...I wonder how long he's been fantasizing about groping this kid? I wonder if there was a mix-up with the hotel rooms and there was accidentally one bed in the room instead of two?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I'm puzzled by attempts to merely label this "human sexuality". I could care less what your sexual preference is; you don't go around grabbing other people in the crotch without them first showing some interest.<< Agreed. Especially with essentially an employee, regardless of him being a 'longtime personal and family friend'.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I wonder if there was a mix-up with the hotel rooms and there was accidentally one bed in the room instead of two?<< Hey, that happens. And always in rooms where the air conditioning seems to be on the fritz.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Perhaps. It's entirely possible that this guy set up a scenario where the young "intended" would have share a bed with him. So what? Where's the crime here?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>It's entirely possible that this guy set up a scenario where the young "intended" would have share a bed with him. So what? << It's a violation of trust, being a longtime family friend and all. The 'intended' is a subordinate working as a page, so that alone makes it inappropriate. I don't know if it advanced far enough to be a 'crime' but it certainley isn't ethical behavior.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Rather than whine about personalities, why not comment on the actual content of the issue at hand, or simply stay away?" So you can't defend it then. This type of crap is no better than most things beau posted. There's nothing of substance to discuss here. Do you REALLY care about whether or not a South Dakota state senator fondled someone 18 years old who was already in the same bed with him? Is your life really that empty to where this is an issue with you that needs to be put on a discussion board for further debate? Can you really deny that the OP's sole motive here was nothing else but just to post "Democrats Stink" in another way? Can you really deny he's not trying to broad brush here? Again? And again? He's serial, chronic, and has done this for years all over the place. That doesn't mean we have to put up with it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 >>>So the question is: would Darkbeer have posted this if the state sen. in question was a Republican? Something's telling me no.<<< <There is a strong possibility some other poster would have done so.> I haven't seen others do it with someone so obscure, at least not serially. (SPP) <Seriously though, who else does this to the extent our boy here does? A state senator from South Dakota? And it obviously isn't the first, second or third time.> Exactly.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>There's nothing of substance to discuss here.<< If that's how you feel, why in the world are you here? For what it's worth, thre are a few people here who are having a substantive discussion. >>Is your life really that empty to where this is an issue with you that needs to be put on a discussion board for further debate?<< As opposed to the lively and no doubt deeply important discussion elsewhere about an inept sports analogy by Rush Limbaugh? I could care less about that, and therefore don't find it necessary to repeatedly crash into the thread, lecturing everyone about how it's just another of the many efforts to tar the Right with the same brush, and on how meaningless it is, anyway. >>Can you really deny that the OP's sole motive here was nothing else but just to post "Democrats Stink" in another way? Can you really deny he's not trying to broad brush here? Again? And again?<< No, because that's what he does within the well established boundaries of the LP Community Standards. No amount of whining and hand wringing is going to change that. >>He's serial, chronic, and has done this for years all over the place. That doesn't mean we have to put up with it.<< Then don't! Why are you invariably among the earlier to post on his topics if you're so gosh darned determined to not put up with it? It really doesn't matter a bit if it's annoying to you personally. -end of rant-
