Democrats and Guns-Liberals have lost the Debate

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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    <a href="http://www.mahalo.com/Beverly_Center_Shooting" target="_blank">http://www.mahalo.com/Beverly_...Shooting</a>

    Gotta love the title of his only release. I'm asking the same thing about him right about now.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo

    >>>yahoos in parks drinking and shooting guns. <<<



    >>>a rather blithe assertion.<<<


    Missed this one X.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo

    >>>Where I live, there's a direct correlation to "More Guns, More Crime". And armed vigilantes we don't need.<<<

    Move.



    Where I live the opposite it true.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo

    However in all fairness on post 23, now that I think about it, both cases probably have little to do with law abiding gun owners owning guns.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "Move."

    Why should I? Why should I let punks with guns ruin my city and force me out?
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Moving is not always an option, in fact, most of the time it's not.
    People on these boards are always saying, "if you don't like (such and such), then move."
    I'd move if I could, I'd move out of the Bay Area, out of California, and possibly out of the country.

    But my husband's job is here, and a darn good one it is. My kids' friends and ours are here, our church, etc. Oh, and my house is upside down, so I can't sell it if I wanted to.

    But by golly, I don't like the direction Calif. is going, or the violent crime in this country which I believe in part is due to our lax gun laws. So I should just move!
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    >>Where I live the opposite it true.<<

    Whatever. I've seen Deliverance.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    <a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms" target="_blank">http://www.nationmaster.com/gr...firearms</a>

    Wow, fourth place!

    Something to be proud of.

    <--rolls eyes.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    That's it! I'm moving to Luxembourg!!
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< <Got any stats to back up that generality?>

    Yes, a whole book of them. >>>

    DouglasDubh, could you share with us which book you're referring to?
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    <<All rappers have guns, and look what it gets them- dead in Beverly Hills. This dead one is someone named "Dolla".>>

    And what will the Hip Hop community do to fill the void of someone who refers to women as ho's. Makes statements showing what a "balla" he his by showing his "bling" I mean that certainly leaves a void in the music world.

    Forget Buddy Holly

    Forget John Lenon

    Forget Elvis.

    This is truly the day the music died.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <DouglasDubh, could you share with us which book you're referring to?>

    It's a book called "More Guns, Less Crime" by a guy named John Lott that came out about 10 years ago. Many people disagreed with his conclusions and called his methodology faulty. See #17 for a small taste.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    You're speculating that that's the book DouglasDubh is referring to. I'd like for him to tell us himself which book he's referring to, so that there will be no misunderstanding.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    See his post #15.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Well, I can see where SuperDry is coming from. It's kinda like the Specter thing. He should specifically state his sources for things like this.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< See his post #15. >>>

    That post says he has "a whole book of them" but does not say which book.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    I hear you, but when he said "Yes, a whole book of them. That's why I put quotes around and capitalized my generality," I figured that was his snarky way of saying that he was referring to the book titled "More Guns, Less Crime," a phrase he quoted an capitalized in #8.

    It's a dubious source, but at least it's a source.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Maybe he didn't have time to simply include a link. Or it wasn't worth it. Or something. But it isn't the first time, and likely not the last, that he'd opt for brevity over clarity.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< I figured that was his snarky way of saying that he was referring to the book titled "More Guns, Less Crime," a phrase he quoted an capitalized in #8. >>>

    That's why I keep asking the question - it's a simple enough question, and if he can settle the matter once and for all without having us guess, then we'll know for sure which book he's referring to.

    <<< It's a dubious source, but at least it's a source. >>>

    Perhaps, but it may not in fact be his source. Hopefully, he'll clarify the matter for us.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    And the Specter issue as well, while he's at it.
     

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