Originally Posted By Mr X ***answer both or remain a coward who can't defend untrue statements*** You know, when I read stuff like this I realize that what seems on the surface to be the result of poor education is, more to the point, evidence of a stunted emotional maturity level. These people are still in elementary school, or at least their brains are (sadly, they qualify as adults when it comes to things like deadly weapons and voting - Good Lord).
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<As I look at all these shooter and their mental illness, I wonder what can be done to get these people the help they need ?>> How about not voting for Republican politicians who keep defunding public assistance programs for the mentally ill? Reagan got the ball rolling in the seventies when he was Governor of my state. He closed all of the state mental hospitals and threw these patients out onto the street, most of whom became homeless, left to fend for themselves. How was that "getting them the help" they needed? The GOP is the party that wants to dismantle Medicaid, which is how most of the mental health services are delivered in this country. The citizens who are in the most desperate need of these services are unable to be fully independent and support themselves, because of their disability. But the GOP doesn't give a rat's arse about that. Their rich donors don't want their precious tax dollars going to the "lazy" folks who supposedly won't pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and deal with their problems themselves. And of course, that includes folks with mental health issues. You keep voting for the politicians, Donny, who keep throwing mental health patients under the bus. So the next time you ask this question, you had best be prepared to vote for political candidates who actually want to fix the mental health care system instead of tearing it apart. And that means, not voting for Republicans.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I was Republican until just a few years ago until yahoos like you hijacked the party<< Me too.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Re #62: Exactly, exactly, exactly. Forget about Donny; 90% of the pols I've seen saying "forget about guns; it's all about mental health" are saying so in an attempt to change the subject. They don't really care about mental health, as most of them have voted to defund it.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo <<Two questions, tiggertoo. Is this better than Foner on Reconstruction? And have you read "Fateful Lightning" by Guelzo?>> ecdc: Sorry. I've been so busy dealing with a death in the family, I haven't logged in in a while. I wouldn't want to make an outright 'which is better' comparison. Blight's presentation (stylistically) made the topic a little easier to envision (especially pertaining to the largely chronology). Foner's analysis is more in depth (very scholarly), but it seemed harder to frame--a little amorphous, if you will. Both analyses are in accord, and compliment each other well. If one hasn't read either, I would suggest Blight first, then Foner to really get to the meat. I have not yet read "Fateful Lightning," but it has been on my list. I really want to move it up---work research allowing. I think the Civil War REALLY needs to be reconceptualized. There is far too much romanticization, and too little focus on the less noble (precursory, during, and resulting from), yet pivotal elements of the war. Hopefully Guelzo does just that. Have you had an opportunity to read it? If so, would you please offer some thought? Thanks.
