Originally Posted By ecdc None of which is to say that someone like Steve Jobs didn't stand on the shoulders of men like Dennis Ritchie or that Apple products don't borrow from other things that came before.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>At the very least, what I find...hmmm...what's the right word...irksome?...is the implication that anyone who likes or even loves an Apple product is just someone who's been duped by clever marketing.<< The irony, of course, is that this is a Disney site. I am sure that all the people troubled by the "cult of personality" get up each morning and thank Ub Iwerks for starting it all with a mouse. ; )
Originally Posted By ecdc >>The irony, of course, is that this is a Disney site. I am sure that all the people troubled by the "cult of personality" get up each morning and thank Ub Iwerks for starting it all with a mouse. ; )<< I had that same analogy in my post, but it was long-winded enough as it was
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I am sure that all the people troubled by the "cult of personality" get up each morning and thank Ub Iwerks for starting it all with a mouse.<< I pretty much do. ;-)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 And yet we know what happened to Ub when he struck out on his own. Great animator, not-great "big picture" guy. I don't see what's wrong with appreciating Ritchie AND Jobs, Iwerks AND Disney for what each brought to the table.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Because internet law states you cannot like two things similar in nature
Originally Posted By andyll Wasn't too bad of a post until this: <<(BTW, no one loves Android. There's just people who hate Apple who have to embrace Android because it's the closest thing there is.)>> Absolutist statements like this that have no basis in reality show how religous like Apple fanboys are.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >Absolutist statements like this that have no basis in reality show how religous like Apple fanboys are.< I love android because I can root it, code for it, etc. without having to have everything ok'd by apple.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Because of my carrier I currently have Android. I like it. It serves its purpose. But everything else I have is Apple, always has been even growing up. I think Apple makes a good product. I don't think that's "worship" it's just a consumer being satisfied with what he bought.
Originally Posted By alexbook Learning C changed the way I think about the world. The phrase "paradigm shift" gets thrown around a lot, but it applies here. Not just the fact that the language and its derivatives have become nearly universal, but also the values it embodied and the quality of "the K&R"--one of the clearest, most concise textbooks I ever read.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>And UNIX was inspired by Multics<< True, but Multics is long gone while UNIX is definitely alive and highly used. Even the Andorid OS has a Linux kernel.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>None of which is to say that someone like Steve Jobs didn't stand on the shoulders of men like Dennis Ritchie or that Apple products don't borrow from other things that came before.<< It's a given that we all stand on shoulders of giants that came before us. Just saying that Dennis Ritchie was giant amongst giants, even if the MSM glossed over his passing away.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >Even the Andorid OS has a Linux kernel< I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Originally Posted By fkurucz Just pointing out how far Ritchie's legacy has spread. Sure, others were involved, like Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds and the legions of programmers who created Linux for free.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "iOS is hands-down the best mobile operating system I have ever seen." I think most of the preference for Android is over customization and not being tied to a specific carrier as far as the Nexus phones go. I got a Nexus because I didn't want a contract and I didn't want the carrier to have control over my phone. I can tether and they can't do anything about it except for dropping me as a customer. The Nexus Galaxy S will apparently be pentaband and have even more flexibility as far as carriers go.
Originally Posted By DVC dad123 Wait. Didn't Bell, the guy credited with inventing the telephone, die? Without him, there would be no iPhone! I really wish HE were still around.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Dennis who?<< You know, the guy who invented the OS your iToys and Macs run on.
