Despicable lie from McCain

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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <<Nothing gadzuux said in that post was unreasonable.>>

    <And yet, reasonable people disagree with him.>

    Reasonable people also believe that McCain really wants to stay in Iraq 100 years. Reasonable in general they may be, but on that point, they're wrong. So are those who believe Obama wants to teach sex to 5 year olds, or that he was referring to Palin.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    I disagree.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    You really think Obama wants to teach sex to 5 year olds? If not, then you must think the otherwise reasonable people who believe that are wrong.

    You really think Obama was referring to Palin rather than using a common expression? (You evaded answering that before). If not, then you must think the otherwise reasonable people who believe that are wrong.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    Reasonable people would look at the deterioration of the economy over the last year and a half, with no signs of improvement on the horizon, and come to the conclusion that Republican leadership over the last 7 years has led to the finanical ruin of a lot of people in this country. And we want 4 more years of that?
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    The economy has faltered because of liberal policies. It's no coincidence that the faltering begam when the Democrats took over Congress. Electing more of them will just make it worse.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I disagree.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    >>The economy has faltered because of liberal policies. It's no coincidence that the faltering begam when the Democrats took over Congress. Electing more of them will just make it worse.<<

    Can you point to any specific things done solely by Democrats that have created the faltering economy? After all, you insist Bush inherited a bad situation; can you provide evidence that Democrats didn't inherit a bad situation? Can you point to any bills that caused the problem? And of course, these would be bills that were not supported by Republicans and, ostensibly, vetoed by Bush and then overrode by Democrats, since it's all their fault, according to you.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    >>The economy has faltered because of liberal policies. <<

    Why don't you just say - "I don't like the Democratic party" .. and be done with it?

    You're pretty insistent on painting a different picture of facts .. and it's quite tiring!
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I guess the Dems put a gun to the heads of Republican Senators Gramm-Leach-Bliley when they wrote the Financial Services Act that broke down the barriers between commercial banking, investment banking, and insurance.
    Yessss, its obvious that its the Dems policies.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    My daughter watched one of these "sex ed" videos in first grade. I opted to go watch it ahead of time to make sure it was okay.
    It was puppets talking about how the area covered by your swimsuit is your private area, and no one should ever touch you in a way that made you feel bad -- that included hitting, etc.

    It was totally innocent and age appropriate. This commercial distorts what Obama said, which is a very effective tactic to those who scared.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***If you watch the video, it sure seems like his audience thought he was.***

    Ah, the new GOP talking point "assumption".

    I don't believe that for a second.

    The crowd was excited by Obama calling Bush's failed policy "a pig". That's all.

    There was some moron on an interview that said if it weren't a reaction to Palin it would've been a "flat reaction".

    Bull.

    I'll stand up and cheer that sentiment (about Bush, his failed policies, and my rejection of more of the same) anytime.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***The economy has faltered because of liberal policies. It's no coincidence that the faltering begam when the Democrats took over Congress.***

    What an incredible load of crap.

    The seeds for this mass financial destruction were seeded WAY back in 2001.

    Doug, you are NOT stupid enough to insinuate that these companies SUDDENLY started talking on trillions in bad bets in 2006 and it just suddenly blew up in their face soon after.

    It's impossible. There wasn't enough TIME to set the whole thing up. These companies were on that road for YEARS.

    Even you can't be bold enough to claim that and try and pin this on the liberals.

    It's nothing but a ridiculous LIE Doug.

    Don't be a liar.

    Please.

    (in fact, YOU AND I talked about this back then, and *I* pointed out the dangers ahead, and this BEFORE the Democrat congress was elected...DO NOT BE A LIAR on this one, we both know too much)
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Correction, I began talking with you, Doug, about this issue right around February of 2007...when New Century started to burn.

    The ultimate canary in the coal mine for this whole ("contained") subprime mess.

    That's when you insisted it was all a lie, remember? Everything was fine (er, by the way, I was right).

    So according to you, less than TWO months after taking power, these Democrats and their policies were so incredibly swift and powerful that they managed to booby trap and torpedo the entire financial structure of the biggest economy in the world?

    No wonder you hate and fear them so much.
     
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    Originally Posted By ChurroMonster

    "The economy has faltered because of liberal policies. It's no coincidence that the faltering begam when the Democrats took over Congress. Electing more of them will just make it worse."

    Oh I get it. This "Do-Nothing Congress" gets the blame for the economy because they obviously did a lot to cause it. Come on. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    Many Republicans have been trying for years to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prevent what ended up happening. They were blocked by Democrats. It's no coincidence that most of the highest ranking people at Fannie Mae were/are Democrats, and that most of the people receiving campaign donations from Fannie Mae were Democrats. The Wall Street Journal has written about this extensively over the last few years.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    So provide some links.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    Register at Opinionjournal.com and type "Fannie Mae" in the search box.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    Here's one - <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121677050160675397.html?mod=mostpop" target="_blank">http://online.wsj.com/article/...=mostpop</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    Here's a collection of links to stories they've written over the last few years. <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121599777668249845.html?mod=Commentary-US" target="_blank">http://online.wsj.com/article/...ntary-US</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Was that so hard?
     

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