Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Because ElKay knows more about the acutal situation on the ground than the Vice President." Given Cheney's role in this mess, El Kay likely does.
Originally Posted By Mr X I agree with Doug. Cheney knows EXACTLY what's going on, he just doesn't care. A couple of dozen people hurt or killed because of an attack aimed at him, and all he does is chuckle about "hearing a loud boom"...nothing about regrets, feeling badly for the dead...nothing (that I've read). They are just star trek red shirts to him...collateral damage. Oh, and whoever said something about them being critisized if they DON'T go, I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that political leaders should enter war zones...ever.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I think he cares a lot, and I doubt there's a legitimate news service that claimed he "chuckled" after the bombing.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Let's beat him up for doing nothing but counting his fat corporate money chest. Oh wait, he is doing something! OMG Let's beat him up for actually doing something as VP. Lame.
Originally Posted By ElKay "Because ElKay knows more about the acutal situation on the ground than the Vice President." The only truth that's come outta your fingertips in while. Being out of the proverbial loop, I'll stake my positions against Chaney's any day of the week. I was critical of the poor counter-narcotics program that essentially allowed the Taliban to flood the world with cheap heroin and make a ton of $$$$. I was against diverting troops in the hunt for Osama in the foolhearty attack on Iraq. I was dubious of Bush's rational for going to war, especially the Niger yellowcake charge. I was with Gen. Shinseki when he estimated that "several hundred thousand" would be needed to occupy Iraq. I KNEW Rummy was a myoptic old fool. I belived disbanding the Iraq Army was foolish. I was sure that only military force would NOT bring together the Iraq factions. I knew that al Qaeda and the foreign jihadists weren't the driving force in the insurgency. I felt that the elections were a sham that only reinforced the factional divide and would NOT create a cohesive popular government. I realized Iraq had devolved into a civil war after the attack on the Shia's Golden Mosque. So yeah, Dougie, I know more of what's going on on the ground than Cheney. It's not Monday Morning QB, it's looking critically at what Cheney and this Admin. said and seeing with clear eyes instead of neocon wishfull thinking.
Originally Posted By ElKay Oh I read this interesting opinion on Salon. com about Cheney's recent visit to Pakistan and Afganistan. Cheney had next to nothing to show for his whirlwind tour except for the fact that being in Afganistan he actually did more to energize the terrorists by bombing our largest military base in the region. Once again, Cheney proves that he's more effective than Speaker Pelosi. ;-)
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I know more of what's going on on the ground than Cheney. It's not Monday Morning QB, it's looking critically at what Cheney and this Admin. said and seeing with clear eyes instead of neocon wishfull thinking.> No, it's not.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Do you know Elkay? You heard him say all those things before they happened?
Originally Posted By SuperDry Once again you attempt to re-direct the focus away from the topic at hand.
