Originally Posted By BPSJP I think the small head or the big headed TRex could pretty much have us fir dinner.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "I hadn't even thought of that! It's high time they updated it." Try convincing the sharp pencil boys to budget some funding for that.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance They found out that T-Rex actually had feathers, but good luck with that ever catching on and becoming common knowledge.
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Originally Posted By egoett It's funny. We were riding this tonight and I mentioned that Walt got paid for this by some corporation for the NY Worlds Fair, then when they didn't need it anymore, packed it up and moved it back to his park, and 50 years later we are still looking at it. I wonder how many times those poor guys have been repaired or replaced in 50 years?
Originally Posted By Brian55nh A topic right up my alley as I'm a dino fanatic as much as a Disney theme park one.Concerning that final Tyrannosaurus vs. Stegosaurus scene, if I recall correctly that scene was pretty much a lift from the "Rite of Spring" dinosaur segment of Fantasia. However, the paleontological community made it known just how inaccurate that whole scenario was since in reality Stegosaurus had gone extinct several million years before T. rex ever appeared in the evolutionary scale of things and the two never could have met. When it came time to put things together for the New York World's Fair, the objections were recalled and an attempt was made to correct things by replacing rexie with the more accurate Allosaurus - an actual contemporary of Stegosaurus. Hence the difference in head-size, 3 fingers rather than two, etc. However, somehow things got confused along the way as to just what this thing was meant to be and it became an amalgam of both predators in the end. Interestingly, you'll note the same almost identical scene is featured in Epcot's "Universe Of Energy" ride-thru segment, but here they made sure it's an actual Allosaurus and nothing but.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Walt got paid for this by some corporation for the NY Worlds Fair, then when they didn't need it anymore, packed it up and moved it back to his park, and 50 years later we are still looking at it. >>> The Japanese liked the dinos so much at the original DL that they had a second set made for Tokyo DL. They are still in service today. That version lacks the "Grand Canyon of today" part, but the dino part is more or less the same.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Try convincing the sharp pencil boys to budget some funding for that." They've been updating like crazy over the past 5 years. The Castle, TSI, Small World, Star Tours, The Rivers of America, The Disney Gallery, etc. Given that fact why would you immediately assume that it would be so difficult to get funding for a small little attraction like Primeval World? "And Hans, it's time to start getting excited for this years birthday present I'm getting for you." My local Salvation Army thanks you. Interesting back story information Brian55nh. "The Japanese liked the dinos so much at the original DL that they had a second set made for Tokyo DL." Oh, right. I'd forgotten about that. The missing Grand Canyon diorama segment is halfway around the world at Disneyland Paris.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "Given that fact why would you immediately assume that it would be so difficult to get funding for a small little attraction like Primeval World?" Because: 1) It hasn't happened in 50 years, unlike with the other attractions, which have been constantly updated over the years. I'll bet that the same incorrect and obsolete dinos will be entertaining train riders 50 years from now. 2) The sharp pencil boys will want to see some ROI. If they have to spend a few million redoing the dioramas and replacing the AAs, well I just don't see it happening. Better dinos won't bring in any crowds. If anything, I'm surprised that they haven't been removed (I'm guessing that keeping them roaring doesn't cost very much). In other words: its already good enough
Originally Posted By SafariRob >> The sharp pencil boys will want to see some ROI. If they have to spend a few million redoing the dioramas and replacing the AAs, well I just don't see it happening. Better dinos won't bring in any crowds. If anything, I'm surprised that they haven't been removed (I'm guessing that keeping them roaring doesn't cost very much).<< That can be solved by converting the Main Street Railroad station into a Primeval gift shop. Maybe they can find a way to incorporate Dinosaur Jack from Yesterland's Sunglass Hut. In all seriousness, though, I really do wish they would update it...especially the stationary animals. It's like riding through a museum.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Walt got paid for this by some corporation for the NY Worlds Fair, then when they didn't need it anymore, packed it up and moved it back to his park, and 50 years later we are still looking at it.<< Not quite the way it happened, but close enough. Ford sponsored Magic Skyways at the1964-65 New York World's Fair, which included a segment in which guests rode brand new Ford convertibles past prehistoric scenes, and into the world of the future. <a href="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5143/5609328221_730cb59893.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm6.static.flickr.com...9893.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/59371508@N07/5609328369/in/photostream/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/5...ostream/</a> After the Fair was over, the dinosaurs were given a new home in Disneyland. The cavemen and cavewomen that accompanied them were not so lucky. I understand they all moved to New Jersey, and their kids now star in some reality TV series...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt fkurucz, more than likely it's just been forgotten about. Primeval World is near the bottom of the list when it comes to Disneyland things to see. The diorama(s) seem to be adequately maintained, so if the so-called pencil boys were as tight with money as you suggest then why not just let it rot or close it down altogether?
Originally Posted By Yookeroo There are people who don't think this is outdated? It's almost embarrassingly so.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The dinosaurs are always one of my favorite things that I never seem to remember. When I'm riding the train, I always get excited when I remember them, about halfway between Toontown and Tomorrowland. The hokey music for the Grand Canyon (doo-de-doo-de-doo-de do-do-do...) is a little tough to handle, but it's part of the fun. It always surprises me just how large and extensive the Primevil World diorama is; it seems like it's significantly longer than the Grand Canyon, and has some sets that are really large and stretch quite far back from the train. >>That can be solved by converting the Main Street Railroad station into a Primeval gift shop.<< Nah, they'd never do that. They'd need to build an elevator to make the station ADA-compliant, which means spending money, so it's basically out of the question. I read many years ago (before the 50th) that there was talk of getting it put on the National Historic Places Register so that it would be exempt. I don't think they ever did that (since it would add a whole new level of rediculous requirements to it), but it certainly makes for a good story!
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>The hokey music for the Grand Canyon (doo-de-doo-de-doo-de do-do-do...) is a little tough to handle...<< "On the Trail" from Ferde Grofe's immortal Grand Canyon Suite... HOKEY? Hmph!
