Originally Posted By vbdad55 designed to keep the attention of impatient and uninterested park guests who need bubbles and squirting water to keep their eyes averted from smart phones --------------------- sadly such is the state of humanity circa 2011.... the venue doesn't matter, this applies everywhere today
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I guess I've never been a big fan of the opening act of HM. I think the room stretching is kind of a hokey effect and does nothing to build suspense for me. I do think the line about how will you get out... there are no windows and no doors... is good a line and makes you wonder what trick Disney may have in store for getting you out. But then the tacky hanging scene immediately destroys that suspense. I've always thought that scene was in poor taste. When teen suicide is a major problem in this country, depicting suicide as a "way out" is poor form. JMHO.<<< While the Stretch Room has some problems, I would only find their faults in execution of effects. The new sound system helps, but I think it needs a couple of new effects and repositioned props. And as for the whole "death/suicide" problem... Spend some time on Long Forgotten/HBG2's site. It's not as grizzly as you think, and it all works out in the end. Besides, death is a part of life. The HM is about death. Can't really separate the two.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Seriously. Really. Having known people who have committed or attempted suicide, it is nothing to joke about. They were just casual acquaintances rather than close friends or family, but it still hurt to see someone who was hurting so badly they chose to take their own life.<<< Yeah, but the HM is ABOUT death. You can't avoid it unless you avoid the attraction.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 RT needs to return to the nursery to his GGG Disney experience and let the adults enjoy Ghost Host suicides, foregign sterotypes in Tiki rooms, pirates chasing women NOT for food, and post-Reconstruction rural Georgian animals
Originally Posted By Tony C Okay I don't know whether to agree or disagree with that last post because I had no idea what was said.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^I believe he's saying that RT only like politically correct things. But you're right, it's pretty hard to understand.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>RT needs to return to the nursery to his GGG Disney experience and let the adults enjoy Ghost Host suicides, foregign sterotypes in Tiki rooms, pirates chasing women NOT for food, and post-Reconstruction rural Georgian animals<<< LOL. I wouldn't put it so harshly, as I respect RT, but you have a point. Not everything has to be so PR friendly.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Yea, but it's not like he's saying all the other things, which were handled pretty well, should stay that way. Suicide is pretty heavy, man.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer It's the Haunted Mansion. It's essentially about death. You'll run into some uncomfortable things out there, you know...
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Whatever. I recognize that death is a part of life probably better than ANY of you. I had a sister die when she was six months old. Another little sister died when she was 51. A little brother died when he was 52. A father died when he was 55. A WIFE of 30 years died when she was 57. Don't effing try to lecture me about death. I probably know it far more intimately than any of you do. And in the end I have no real problem with it. My 82-year old mother currently has pancreatic cancer and will die soon. But she has had a good long life and it has to be expected. But to EVER think that any representation of suicide is acceptable is just sick and twisted. You have real problems, not me.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I actually like the suicide scene. As well as finding the jokes about it in Beetlejuice to be amusing. But I like dark humour. It makes it easier to deal with the real deaths and suicides I have been around, which sadly are into triple if not quadruple figures in my life. I love the Addams Family, I adore the Musters, and the dark humour of MASH. Besides, in DLP, the hanging guy is not suicide, it is murder - the Phantom is holding the rope as Madeleine Ravenswood's fiance dangles from the gallow. And at the London dungeons, there is a great attraction. You get loaded into a car similar to Tower of Terror. You then go up, and there is an 18th century AA jury, who try you and sentance you to death. You watch them through a hang mans noose. Then, as you are sentanced, a hang man pulls a lever. You drop. The lights go out, and you hear a prayer of last rights fade away, follwed by a very bright light. I love it, and it is the most popular thing at the dungeons, so I am not alone.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo My too favorite parts of HM are the stretch room and the waltzing ghosts!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Urggghhhh, what a bad grammer error - two, not too. Grrrr. Sorry guys, carry on.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Whatever. I recognize that death is a part of life probably better than ANY of you. I had a sister die when she was six months old. Another little sister died when she was 51. A little brother died when he was 52. A father died when he was 55. A WIFE of 30 years died when she was 57. Don't effing try to lecture me about death. I probably know it far more intimately than any of you do. And in the end I have no real problem with it. My 82-year old mother currently has pancreatic cancer and will die soon. But she has had a good long life and it has to be expected. But to EVER think that any representation of suicide is acceptable is just sick and twisted. You have real problems, not me.<<< Look, I didn't mean to be flippant, and I am sorry for your losses, really. But you brought it up in the context of the Haunted Mansion, and through that, I put out my points. I wasn't lecturing you. Nor do I think it fitting to tell me that I have problems. It's a SHOW. And I don't think the "representation" of suicide is "acceptable". It's merely a plot point in a show that features the supernatural after death. Where I presented it, or the actual Haunted Mansion presents it as something positive, I'd like to know.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub and we play HangMan with children to entertain them! Funny in all these years I have never connected tragedy with the HM or the game.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub tragedy .. except for now with the new Q... sorry could not resist. Is there an online HAngman game we can all play for some fun?
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub this is the topic that shall never "die" we just keep "hanging" around
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>and we play HangMan with children to entertain them! Funny in all these years I have never connected tragedy with the HM or the game.<<< Exactly. HM might be about death, but it's not filled with tragedy. In fact, most of the ghosts end up happy, and the finale is one of mirth. Grim GRINNING Ghosts. Everything turns out well. Again, HBG2's blog explains this quite well. The only unhappy ghost in the place, is the bride, Constance, and that's a issue separate from the rest of the show.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Besides, in DLP, the hanging guy is not suicide, it is murder - the Phantom is holding the rope as Madeleine Ravenswood's fiance dangles from the gallow.>> In Orlando I'm sure it is a suicide with the ghost host saying "Of course there's my way out". I really don't have a big problem with death or dark humor. Just the presentation of suicide as "a way out".
