Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Ugh this is so true. I am in the age bracket where i "should" always be on my phone or texting, but i cant stand it!>> I think that because you have a functioning brain and an IQ over 70! I'm not sure most folks can say the same. Ridiculous just how dumb people really are today. <<I think Disney queues have enough details to be entertaining before you enter the attraction. I always find it fun to strike up a conversation with other guests in line too.>> Agreed on both counts. When I see folks Twittering while in a 15-minute line for PoC, I truly want to take their toy away and stomp on it. Of course, I also have major issues with the idiots that feel the need to record entire attractions and even pyro shows instead of actually experiencing them.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper They are, for all intents and purposes, adding "real reasons" for people to visit in terms of the expansion. But, I'd argue they could add 304 more "major" attractions and the demand on the park would just grow as well. Fastpass isn't the cure all and there will always be a standby line...unless they go to a reservation only system (egads). When I went by the Jungle Cruise around 8pm Monday the stand by wait was 100 minutes. 100 minutes! If you are saying I can have the choice of standing in line for 100 minutes without entertainment or with entertainment...well...I choose WITH entertainment. Call me dumb. (Actually, I'd be dumb to stand for 100 minutes for ANY attraction.) I haven't stood more than 30 minutes for any attraction in at least 15 years. I'm not going to race back to Soarin' and I'll be darned if I'm waiting for it so....I haven't been on it yet. And, funny thing...I'm surviving without it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<They are, for all intents and purposes, adding "real reasons" for people to visit in terms of the expansion. But, I'd argue they could add 304 more "major" attractions and the demand on the park would just grow as well.>> I'd argue they aren't truly adding almost anything with this alleged 'expansion' ... they aresimply replacing existing attractions and capacity that was removed with other (albeit nicer) things. This 'expansion' is actually probably less of one than the 1992 opening of the Splash Montain complex. <<Fastpass isn't the cure all and there will always be a standby line...unless they go to a reservation only system (egads). When I went by the Jungle Cruise around 8pm Monday the stand by wait was 100 minutes. 100 minutes! If you are saying I can have the choice of standing in line for 100 minutes without entertainment or with entertainment...well...I choose WITH entertainment. Call me dumb. (Actually, I'd be dumb to stand for 100 minutes for ANY attraction.) I haven't stood more than 30 minutes for any attraction in at least 15 years. I'm not going to race back to Soarin' and I'll be darned if I'm waiting for it so....I haven't been on it yet. And, funny thing...I'm surviving without it.>> Well, Disney plays games with waits. I'm not saying the 100-minute JC line wasn't legit because I wasn't there ... but often times well, the times are off. I doubt I'd ever wait for anything 100 minutes in the USA. I steeled myself to the possibility I'd be doing so when I was in Tokyo a few months back, but between getting there early, crowds not being as bad as expected and using FP the right way, I never waited more than 35 minutes for anything in four days (that wait, btw, was indeed for the JC!) I would have waited that long for many things, mostly at TDS. But it just wasn't necessary. I think many folks wait needlessly at WDW because they decide they have to ride something at a certain time ... or they've got kids who can't stay up late ... or they have meal ressies they made six months in advance etc ... People can often do nine attractions (to use that key number) in the last 2-3 hours of the day without waiting for anything, but they set themselves up for disaster by getting there at opening and starting a pattern of what they just must see then and now.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I have to say that I am one of those people who hates standing in line for anything. I seriously have to do mental exercises for anything longer than a 10 minute wait and I cringe when I hear stories about people camping out all night for a movie opening or the latest piece of Apple technology. Waiting especially torturous for me at Disney Parks because I've experienced everything at least a half dozen times in the various versions around globe. I don't visit often, but when I do I do my best to go when the parks are the least busy to avoid crowds and the long waits. Sorry, but I guess I'm one of those people who sincerely appreciates the added benefits of Fastpass and entertaining and/or interactive queues.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip That is the great thing about January... I usually have no problem doing 14-15 attractions at the MK... even when I don't arrive there until almost noon. I usually try to go to the MK during a day when they have nighttime EMH, but more often than not I'm finished with the park by regular closing time.
Originally Posted By jmuboy Is this queue going to still be "optional" once its complete and fully functional? Right now its an option. It would seem dumb for it to always be "optional" but curious what WDW intends to do with this.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Jungle Cruise around 8pm Monday the stand by wait was 100 minutes. 100 minutes! If you are saying I can have the choice of standing in line for 100 minutes without entertainment or with entertainment...well...I choose WITH entertainment.>> I guess gags in the queue and a terrific queue loop filled with gags doesn't count as entertainment? Sure, they wouldn't entertain me for 100 minutes, but I doubt anything in the HM queue would either...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I guess gags in the queue and a terrific queue loop filled with gags doesn't count as entertainment? Sure, they wouldn't entertain me for 100 minutes, but I doubt anything in the HM queue would either...<<< Don't you have a Tweeter and a iPhone, Hokie!??! You can play with that!
Originally Posted By Expo_Seeker40 It's a queue people....a queue. **runs back to play with the tomb stones**
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "I have to say that I am one of those people who hates standing in line for anything. I seriously have to do mental exercises for anything longer than a 10 minute wait" I'm the same way. The whole time all I can think is, "Oh my god, I'm never getting out of this line" and the wait is so awful for me that no matter how great the ride is, it's very hard to ever make waiting worth it. If you add any heat from the sun to this mixture and I'll blow a gasket.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance And I also agree that anything that takes my mind off of the waiting or makes me wait less time is going to be a bonus for me. No matter if it's "tacky" or doesn't match the original story perfectly or whatever. Once you add the kids into the mix, it's a wonder I ever go to Disneyland. My daughter is so impatient she describes walk ons with zero wait to be "not too bad" of a wait.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It's a queue people....a queue. **runs back to play with the tomb stones**<<< It's just a wand... ...It's just a BAH... ...It's just a DVC cart... ...It's just a pin... ...It's just a Vinylamation... ...it's just a unnecessary, MAGICal thing that Disney didn't need to do to further muddy up the theme and story of one of their best rides.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I just had to say I've never used the word dissin' that was fun. Don't even know if I spelled it right.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Hey now ..no dissin' on the Vinylamation.<< Eh. I have no interest in them... Weird looking things. I don't understand the collecting mentality for things that all essentially look the same. LOL
Originally Posted By vbdad55 wow, some of the hate here--I have nbot seen it in person yet ( will in June)- but it looks perfectly fine to me. And the mix of humor and sccariness is what the mansion IS about is it not ? WE''ve all been to real scary Haunted houses on Halloween, HM is NOT that -- so I say, this is a bonus on one of their best attractions already. Would I like to have seen them plus something that needs it first- sure...but bashing this seems to make no sense. I am though concerned about upkeep as some of the maniacs that are allowed to run loose there, while so called parents look the other way will trash much of this - soon. I can see them standing on the organ kets - climbing the tombstones (low fences don't matter) - etc
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And the mix of humor and sccariness is what the mansion IS about is it not ?<<< Right. But there's a DEVIDE for that. You go from the Claude Coats part of the Mansion to the Marc Davis part, and the gags get sillier, funnier, and less grim and foreboding. Shoving this onto the front of the attraction is a thematic disjunction. And I don't see any hate here...That's a strong word for something Disney...
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 ">>>Who/what is Chatty Connie?<<< The bride that doesn't shut up in the attic. The story is VERY heavy handed there." LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! You know, I thought the OP was referring to the poster here, "CuriousConstance" or whatever! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Oh, no! Not at all. LOL. I like Constance. The poster, that is. *waves* LOLOL
Originally Posted By vbdad55 And I don't see any hate here...That's a strong word for something Disney... ------ "Disgusting new Mansion Queue. MY GOD" tell me again about no hate even starting with the title of the thread- complete with CAPS
