Originally Posted By BeautysBeast vbdad must of missed her part of the post where they strapped explosives on a 6 year old kid...explain further..
Originally Posted By MPierce >> NO ONE has said that all football players are saints but there have been a LOT of posts about how bad football players are. That's the point...the fact that they play football means nothing either way. It is just plain retarded to draw any sort of conclusions about their behavior that night based on the fact that they will be playing football in the fall in Miami. << That's right there is nothing relevant about them playing football. I wonder why the newspaper made a point of mentioning it though. I think some people as interpreting that as declaring they were something special, I could be wrong. Please don't think I'm being picky, but I'm trying to save you an attack by FSU fans, which I believe is in Tallahassee.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast True M pierce..To be honest tho because they were FSU bound football playersand given the troubled history of football players in florida,it will sell more papers.
Originally Posted By mele I thought the article stated that they were hanging out with each other because they would be teammates, that they were "bonding". That explains how that particular group of people (some from out of state?) would be hanging out together. I didn't get any sort of "let's treat them like they're great because they're football players" vibe from the article. And I loathe the way athletes are celebrated. I think it's absurd.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Dont think im not going to diss the GAtors cause they national champs, beating Ohio st. either...although they beat ohio state in baskettball also..well i will let them slide ...: )
Originally Posted By danyoung >That's right there is nothing relevant about them playing football. I wonder why the newspaper made a point of mentioning it though.< I think the football qualifier was used in the media to indicate that these weren't just thugs. But I would have felt better about the lads if they'd been engineering students going to MIT. I guess that's just the nerd in me, though . . .
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <vbdad must of missed her part of the post where they strapped explosives on a 6 year old kid...explain further..< making these case that homeland security doesn't need to pay attention to people because they are 40 year old women -- the 6 year old potential suicide bomber was stopped recently in Iraq -- funny how people can be so smug about homeland security and police /s ecurity with what's going on in the world and in the UK the last few days. Must be nice to be that brilliant to be able to look at people and tell right away who is and isn't a concern. Someday I hope to be that smart --
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Who said they were thugs or gangbangers??< no body said they were - but the police said they are cracking down because of an acknowledged gang presence... that's all I need to know. Did it ever occur to anyone that 4 jocks could very well become the targets of gangbangers , if they are just hanging around for hours on end , trying to scope the same girls out ? Again, all they had to do was do what was asked by security -- they for whatever reason felt they were above security, and they are not.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast People people lets try to stay on topic here..the issue is the profiling of teens at Disney..Those with closed minds can start own posts elsewhere..
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Not sure who you are trying to single out, but I have not seen any closed minds - just people asking questions. If it is me, then point to where my mind is closed in something I have stated ? No one here has made you the keeper of the boards unless you have a case -- I have seen questions and statements by DanYoung and trippy blown off... and obviously I have hit a nerve. Again point out where the closed minded statements are.......... We ARE all talking about the same type of situation, what is your issue ?
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast And btw Vbdad,my beauty is in the UK right now so i am concerned about terrorism and its effects as is she and all the rest of us.Thats quite a generalization u make at the expense of someone u dont even know.But this is the internet so anyone can have an opinion.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Any indentification of potential issues at DTD is based on what police have already identified as a gang presence at times in DTD. All security/safety issues are tied to safety and security for all , and sorry but that ranges from gangs to terrorism. There is a common thread as to why the crackdown is happening, it's not all about the supposed profiling of 4 kids. The bigger picture is what's driving the issue - so again how are some of the points made by many not on target ? If there is a specific post that is off target - call it out, I have no problem with that and neither should anyone else. The overall scenario cannt be separated, even by a poster who tells other unfortunately this is America. I have no beef with you directly and this is geared towards anyone in this thread, trying to steer the feedback and limit discussion does not end up doing any better a job than the Sentinel did in their reporting. In the greater scheme of things, the 4 kids are only a small part of the story of what may be going on there.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <And btw Vbdad,my beauty is in the UK right now so i am concerned about terrorism and its effects as is she and all the rest of us.Thats quite a generalization u make at the expense of someone u dont even know.But this is the internet so anyone can have an opinion< again, it is you who continue to speak in terms of generalities -- what generalization are you talking about - be specific for a change so someone has an idea what you issue is. and btw.. more than 2/3 of my wifes fanily lives in the UK - including 3 in the military - so spare me the lecture on what I can and cannot have an opinion on -
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Give me any specific issue you have with my posts and I would be glad to address, but can't do it with general comments. I value everyones opinion, and do not want to limit anyone from speaking what they feel..
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Everyone here has valid points so no worries mates..dont sweat it so much
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast And im flying to toUK sept 11th..im not going to let them hold us down...
