Originally Posted By dshyates "4 teenagers getting mouthy with security, after being asked to move on...c'mon, the security officers had to be in the wrong...how dare they try and keep a private [property area secure for the majority of people. And - football players -- they are all angels -- Pacman Jones (misunderstood) - Tank Johnson ( really father of the year ) - the Cincinnati bengals - just being harassed by 'the man' -- what are you thinking ? University of Miami football program - all rhodes scholars and upstanding citizens.... first wait until there is a huge brawl - maybe even started by real gang bangers trying to harass the football players, and then gunfire etc....then maybe we can call the police ( if we are sure this is really a problem ) This sounds like an excellent plan to me." WOW this little rant is quite possibly the most racist thing I've seen all year. And I live in WV. Wow. really. Vote for George much?
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast west virginia upringing not with standing..please try to comprehend the posts u have read..its at least second grade reading...
Originally Posted By dshyates lol. Ya'll have to forgive me. English is my 2nd language. Hillbilly bein' my first. I musta got it wrong. Please explain it for me. Like what do PacMan and Tank, who have committed rediculous and serious crimes and should be prosecuted to the fullist extent of the law have to do with 4 guys busted for loitering. And doesn't this statement: "first wait until there is a huge brawl - maybe even started by real gang bangers trying to harass the football players, and then gunfire etc...." imply that the shear presence of 4 teenage "football players"* could incite a gangland gun blazin' riot? I may have read that wrong. *= Black males
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast My mention of U of Miami and FSU was illustrate the past history of its football team..has nothing to do with race when a crime or violation is commited..its just fact
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Originally Posted By BeautysBeast my point being these kats was didnt deserve the treatment or publicity they got untill that one dude took off running across the parking lot like he was being chased by the televised cops unit
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <"4 teenagers getting mouthy with security, after being asked to move on...c'mon, the security officers had to be in the wrong...how dare they try and keep a private [property area secure for the majority of people. And - football players -- they are all angels -- Pacman Jones (misunderstood) - Tank Johnson ( really father of the year ) - the Cincinnati bengals - just being harassed by 'the man' -- what are you thinking ? University of Miami football program - all rhodes scholars and upstanding citizens.... first wait until there is a huge brawl - maybe even started by real gang bangers trying to harass the football players, and then gunfire etc....then maybe we can call the police ( if we are sure this is really a problem ) This sounds like an excellent plan to me." WOW this little rant is quite possibly the most racist thing I've seen all year. And I live in WV. Wow. really. Vote for George much?> why do you want to try and make everything rascist ? What agenda do you have ? You don't know me from Adam...if you did you would never make this a personal attack. I grew up in the inner city and still work there many hours a week with youth groups - how about you. What do you contribute to society except a smart alec attitude ? Those are the footballplayers that have been in the news - is that not true ? There are plenty of loser athletes of all races.....the article made highlight of the fact they were going to be football player - like that somehow made them sppecial - it doesn't. what a loser post all the way around.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <west virginia upringing not with standing..please try to comprehend the posts u have read..its at least second grade reading...< thank you BB, I am appalled at the comprehension level of the poster if that is what they took away from the posts.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <imply that the shear presence of 4 teenage "football players"* could incite a gangland gun blazin' riot? I may have read that wrong. *= Black males< then you get to get yourself an education my friend - if that is what I had meant that is what I would have said. I already said I work with inner city youth - that is black / white / hispanic / asian -- and guess what - there are gangs in parts of the city that are represented by each. No race has a lock on being gang bangers -- but maybe that is what you think in WV I guess - that would make you rascist wouldn't it. Come to the big city some time .. you'd be awfully surprised if that is the narrow minded view you have. next time you jump to a conclusion you might want to think it thru first.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Absolutely, after first mining the metal, smelting the metal, shaping it in the perfect image of a horn, and then blowing the horn so that all far and wide can hear that this indeed is not only the perfect horn, but a far superior horn to any other horn that ever existed. I mean hey, if you're gonna blow your own horn, you might as well BLOW the danged thing!>> Coming from an OLD BLOWHARD, that is high praise indeed ...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<University of Miami football program - all rhodes scholars and upstanding citizens....>> Hey, ole tiara-wearing DVC-loving, crossdressing VBDAD, let's leave the 'Canes outta this ... These dudes were 'Noles.
Originally Posted By dshyates "There are some dumbarses out there but everyone is ready to jump on the race card for this incident because of there color" Well we know it WASN'T because they are football players, as this would be impossible for security to know they are players unless of course they forgot to remove their uniforms before going to the mall. Disney has recently admitted to "cracking down" on gang activity. Then they toss out these 4 teens some of who are there on vacation with their parents. It is obviously eye color. Most gang members have the same eye color and unfortunaly for all 4 of these young men they had gang eye color.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^ was just an example as you know -- at least unlike others you were able to comprehend that this was a comment about football programs - not any particular race by any stretch of the imagination - Canes / Noles and most any other program protects players that are valuable to them, almost regardless of what they do, so the use of the fact that they were football recruits from the Sentinel, as if that was supposed to make them better than any other 4 kids that would have been standing there is what some of us have been commenting on. My alma mater is one of those that is supposedly above that type of thing - I say supposedly because in the past 10 years they have had a player convicted for throwing a football game ( fumbling) while betting on the other team, one player punch out a cop and get shot, and a coach go on to another school and run the program into more controversy than anyone could have hoped for ( Colorado) - However in some parts, that is a rascist stance from what I read here... and I learned from this thread that there are no white / hispanic/ asian gangs in this country.... who says you don't learn something new every day ?
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast i apologize dshyates for jumping on ur statement..u seem a nice gent like vbdad.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <It is obviously eye color. Most gang members have the same eye color and unfortunaly for all 4 of these young men they had gang eye color. < NO, they all had smart mouths to security, but then that would require taking ownership for ones actions, easier to try and blame it on something else --
Originally Posted By vbdad55 sometimes one axtually has to own up to what they do -- Paris Hilton learned that the hard way recently also -- but today no one wants to admit they could have been wrong - it's easier to blame someone or something else.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast I went to college at the Citadel in Charleston SC ive seen racism at its worst and its horrible.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 But dshyates, you have made up your mind where right and wrong lies in this argument ( and I can tell by how quick you come to judgement of others how much thought went into it ) - so it is something I nor anyone else here is every going to change your mind on -- so you believe what you want...really doesn't matter in the scheme of things anyway. I'm done here before I get accused of anything else - my opinion lies with they were 4 teenagers who got mouthy after hanging around for a long time...period. Could have been any 4 kids - could have been me many years ago --
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast some of the black upperclassmen used to make imitate them like a pimp..ALtho i was scared i did it and they laffed tho..
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast beats doing doing 100 pushups in the stairwell with them sitting on your back at the time