Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I went to college at the Citadel in Charleston SC ive seen racism at its worst and its horrible.< just curious BB - how long ago ? I grew up on the South Side of Chicago in the 60's and those who know their history know what issues were there.... Rascism is a terrible thing - I saw it tear apart neighborhoods and schools and families in the 60's -- the world have moved forward since then, but admittedly not fast enough nor far enough. I knew many people in gangs ( not wannabe's , real gang members) - as in my neighborhood that was a way of life. I work with kids today ( some of whom are active gang members) in the same area I grew up in to try and help them escape from the influences around them. It is an ongoing battle, but until we are able to change opinions and opportunities, we will continue to be on the losing end of the situation. Which is why I just love it when someone tells me who and what I am....
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast i did 2 years at Citadel then enlisted in the navy.. couldnt get a scholarship so had to sign up the hard way lol
Originally Posted By dshyates Apology accepted. BB "NO, they all had smart mouths to security, but then that would require taking ownership for ones actions, easier to try and blame it on something else -- ". Being a smart mouth is not the course of action I would recommend. But this came after being approach several times for doing what people do at the mall. The sheriffs department says they were initially approached for loitering, then the 4 failed to cooperate with the request to leave. I can see where anyone who hasn't done anything wrong may take exception to being made to leave. I just call it as I see it. I think this loitering policy is a bad policy that opens a can of worms they can avoid. Clearly defined nondiscriminatory policy based on age and parentel supervision are surefire ways to to avoid the race card. Public areas of private property are tricky situations. Often times it isn't what you legally can do as much as what you should do. That goes for both sides.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Was 81-83 i was there... met some of my best friends while there.Wild times too.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Coming from an OLD BLOWHARD, that is high praise indeed ...< As it was intended, my friend! And for the record, while this has been an interesting discussion with lots of misunderstanding and hyperbole to go around, the only comments I've had a hard time with were BeautysBeast trying to act as moderator. Not your job, dude - try not to do that any more, K?
Originally Posted By mele <<"NO, they all had smart mouths to security>> According to sheriff's Cmdr. Larry Krantz, who supervised the off-duty deputies working at Downtown Disney last weekend, Disney security officers said they spoke to the football players several times during the evening. ... From his own observations, he said, the athletes were not aggressive or rude, but he understood that at least one made "kind of smart remarks" to Disney security.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Being in Florida and a frequent visitor to Disney i know how it is,especially with the past mugging of those two folks.They refused to press charges and regardless security is going to step up its presence.I wasnt there when the high school kids was approached but im sure it was a targeted issue by security presence.Not making excuses but sure as heck would like to beieve it wasnt racially motivated.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Being in Florida and a frequent visitor to Disney i know how it is,especially with the past mugging of those two folks.They refused to press charges and regardless security is going to step up its presence.I wasnt there when the high school kids was approached but im sure it was a targeted issue by security presence.Not making excuses but sure as heck would like to beieve it wasnt racially motivated.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast When i see a thread goin off topic with random personal manifestos of someones ego rantings, i shall call a stop to it..This isnt anyones personal platform..Get over yourself dude..
Originally Posted By dshyates I work everyday with every faction of law enforcement. And I have the utmost respect for the guys out there doing an impossible job. I does appear this time they got it wrong. It happens. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out. Private Property, lawyers kid, Black. My guess is Disney will settle out of court with no admission of guilt. Just a guess.
Originally Posted By dshyates Don't get me wrong. If it were my kid, there would be hell to pay for not cooperating with authorities. But my guess is the kids families will sue, Disney could quite possibly prevail in court, but will settle to make it go away. And the world keeps turning.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Lets hope they do sue and win ..they certainly have a case against disney.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast White or black tho..i just wish some crazed gruntled cop had happened to be there and busted a few caps in they arses
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I does appear this time they got it wrong. It happens. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out. Private Property, lawyers kid, Black. My guess is Disney will settle out of court with no admission of guilt.>> Regardless of how it appears, Disney has already reduced the restrictions placed on the teens; they will be banned from DtD for one year. Unless the lawyer father of the one teen decides to persue a discriminatory charge, there will be no need for Disney to settle anything.
