Disney allowing commitment ceremonies

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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    Gus & Jaq. :)

    (And thanks for the birthday wishes. Gadzuux's Freudian slip was funny. *g*)
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Timon and Pumba have been called "the first gay couple in a Disney film" by some, so there's a maybe.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<Gadzuux's Freudian slip was funny.>>

    Was Puss in Boots a Disney character??

    ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    I've always been suspicious of christopher robin.
     
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    Originally Posted By mrichmondj

    Something tells me that Mulan is a popular character at these events.
     
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    Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

    Happy birthday BDSF! :)
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandJB

    I was thinking more of Maleficent and the Wicked Queen ;)
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <Gay marriage is not legal in Minnesota.>

    I doubt that. While I'm sure gay marriages are not recognized by the State of Minnesota, I doubt anyone is fined or jailed for taking part in them.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    Oh brother. You know darned well what "Gay marriage is not legal in Minnesota" is intended to mean.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<While I'm sure gay marriages are not recognized by the State of Minnesota, I doubt anyone is fined or jailed for taking part in them. >>

    Did I say that? No I did not. I was pointing out to another poster that a gay couple would not be able to receive a marriage license in Minnesota. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <Did I say that?>

    If you say an act is illegal, then it follows that someone doing it would be punished by law enforcement in some way. So that's definitely what you implied.

    <I was pointing out to another poster that a gay couple would not be able to receive a marriage license in Minnesota.>

    I'm sorry I reacted to what you wrote, rather than what you apparently meant.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<I'm sorry I reacted to what you wrote, rather than what you apparently meant.>>

    So what part of this didn't you understand?

    <<<<So a Minnesota marriage license doesn't cut the mustard...?>>

    Gay marriage is not legal in Minnesota.>>
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "If you say an act is illegal, then it follows that someone doing it would be punished by law enforcement in some way. So that's definitely what you implied."

    Oh please. A wseek away and all you've got is this malarkey? None of the marriages Gavin Newsom sanctioned were legal. Anybody go to jail there? Law enforcement involved? Age discrimination isn't legal. Anyone going to jail over that when it happens? Cops called? I could go on, but I don't want to bore myself.
     
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    Originally Posted By JeffG

    >> "So, does Disney not support this sort of arrangement, where the legal formalities are handled in the home state?" <<

    I did get married at the Disneyland Resort and, at least at that time, it was required by Disney that we get an Orange County, California marriage license in order to have the ceremony there. Admittedly, this was 6 1/2 years ago, so I don't know how the policies might have changed. The specific facts of the policy change being discussed in this thread, though, suggests that the policy was still in place, at least until now.

    -Jeff
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <So what part of this didn't you understand?>

    When you used the word "legal" when you meant the word "recognized".
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <A wseek away and all you've got is this malarkey?>

    It's not "malarkey".

    <None of the marriages Gavin Newsom sanctioned were legal.>

    They weren't valid, but they were not illegal. You'd think a lawyer would know that words have meanings.
     
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    Originally Posted By RC Collins

    >>"We are not in the business of making judgments about the lifestyle of our guests. We are in the hospitality business, and our parks and resorts are open to everyone," Walker said.<<

    The second sentence is great. The first sentence is stupid. DISCLAIMER: I KNOW SAME-SEX UNIONS ARE NOT AKIN TO POLYGAMY, NOR INCEST, NOR IS POLYGAMY AKIN TO INCEST. NONE OF THE THREE ARE AKIN TO MURDER. That being said, the first sentence COULD be taken by a incestuous couple or a polygamous group to mean that Disney would be open to hosting their ceremonies, too. After all, Disney does not make judgments on "lifestyles," and as long the ceremony doesn't involve actually breaking a law (forging a marriage document), then why not?

    Please not that I think Disney has every right to run their parks as they want to, including offering these ceremonies to all. I just think the first sentence of that quote is poorly worded.

    (Oh, and Disney does not welcome people with a lifestyle too poor to afford paying for these ceremonies - so they do make some judgments.)

    I predict someone will JUDGE me to "judging" same-sex unions as akin to the other relationships I mentioned. And murder. Which I didn't. And if judging is wrong, you can't judge me.

    Thank you.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    It disgusts me to have to prove that Minnesota is such a backwards state, but does THIS convince you that gay marriage is illegal in Minnesota?

    << Minnesota Marriage Timeline

    1971: The Minnesota Supreme Court upholds denial of a marriage license to a same-sex couple.

    1977: The legislature amends the marriage statute, defining the institution as “a civil contract†between a man and a woman.

    1993: “Sexual orientation†is added to Human Rights Act; marriage is excluded from MHRA’s scope.

    1997: The legislature passes the Defense of Marriage Act, allowing the state to decline to recognize same-sex marriages performed elsewhere.>>

    Source: <a href="http://www.outfront.org/library/marriage_mn.html" target="_blank">http://www.outfront.org/librar
    y/marriage_mn.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <It disgusts me to have to prove that Minnesota is such a backwards state, but does THIS convince you that gay marriage is illegal in Minnesota?>

    No, it convinces me that gay marriages are not legally recognized in Minnesota. As I said earlier.
     
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    Originally Posted By melekalikimaka

    If judging you is wrooong, I don't wanna be right.
     

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