Originally Posted By berol Disney's side of the story might widely differ from the one in the article. For instance, they mighta been gently nudging for months, promises to move the concert were repeatedly broken, then finally had to take a stand. who knows
Originally Posted By alexbook >>Disney's side of the story might widely differ from the one in the article. For instance, they mighta been gently nudging for months, promises to move the concert were repeatedly broken, then finally had to take a stand. who knows<< Has there been any sort of statement from Disney or HoB? I can't find one in Google News or here on LP. So far, all we've got is a statement from the band's record company. I'm starting to smell publicity stunt. >>As with the movie theater. If Disney feels that certain movies are detrimental to their overall image, then, yes, they could step in over at the movie complex too.<< I think they have, on occasion, but I don't know details. Wouldn't it be odd, though, if people bought tickets for a movie, then found out that the showing had been cancelled and the movie wasn't playing there any more? It seems like that's what's happened here.
Originally Posted By LuLu I was just checking the schedule since I'm going to DL tonight, and this show is still listed. Not that that means anything... Gee, it sounds good, maybe I should check it out!
Originally Posted By Darkbeer It has been listed as moved, along with another show on the 13th, which was also Heavy Metal... <a href="http://www.hob.com/venues/clubvenues/anaheim/" target="_blank">http://www.hob.com/venues/club venues/anaheim/</a>
Originally Posted By sarahwithbaloo I see Lilly Allen has not been moved alot of hern lyrics are filth but then I guess her fans do'nt wear black. I wonder if Good Charlote's will be moved too.
Originally Posted By a1stav I have been to a "Bad Brains" concert at HOB in WDW. Great thoughtful punk show, but not very "family friendly". The Aquabats have a great clean fun show, but many of there openers use the F word. I saw "Johnny Vatos" (AKA Oingo Bonigo without Danny Elfman) tribute to Halloween a couple years back at the Grove. Great show, clean lyrics and between songs he must have use the F word at least fifty times. They are scheduled to play HOB DTD on the 27th. of Oct. I do agree that some bands are down right sickening and not good to book. I did sound for Lil' Flip once, in the parking lot the police confiscated seven fire arms. If I never hear the "N" word or MF it would be fine with me after that show. Where do you draw the line?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Now, I'm really scared. Not only am I in complete agreement with Jon, but also I-57 ... I hope there are no monsters (or Monsters) under my bed.>> <<I noticed the same troika of agreement, too. It made me smile.>> It didn't make me smile ... smirk maybe! <<Wouldn't it be so much easier for each of the three of us if the other two were COMPLETELY uncredible and unlikeable and added nothing of value to LP?>> Nah. I like credibility. I like debating with those type of folks, even if it gets heated. Who wants to argue with morons? You can't win and wind up dirtying yourself in the process. <<Why can't you two be like Mr X and WorldDisney, who are so TOTALLY devoid of value on these boards that it feels GOOD to cringe at their posts?! >> No comment.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I see where you are coming from folks, but Disney made their choice years ago when partnering with HOB. They weren't an unknown quantity then. I really wanted to see Disturbed when they were at HOB WDW last year. But where do you draw the line. Britany Spears has not been a wholesome entertainer since producing her first record, and she did a gig at Disney Studios a few years back. How do you differentiate? I'm sorry guys, maybe it's being a San Francisican in Europe, but loosen up. It's not like it is inside the berm or a strip show. And there was likely to be age restrictions.
Originally Posted By jonvn I think it's easy to differentiate. Foul language, crude behavior, violent fans and imagery....these would be kind of inappropriate.
Originally Posted By TP2000 I think Disney did the right thing here. There's a limit to what they should be featuring in Downtown Disney, and what type of clientele they should be going after. And this is not the vibe or crowd Downtown Disney should be purposely seeking for this mall. It's a shame they didn't make this decision earlier and had to incovenience some of the legit fans who bought tickets in advance. But overall Disney has done the right thing by deciding to not allow this band to perform on its property. Disney is, after all, the property managers for this mall, and they can decide the content of the services and products offered for sale in that mall. Disney has done the right thing, and let's hope they continue with keeping this kind of entertainment off its property. The venue in Pomona sounds much more conducive to this type of demographic anyway. I can't imagine too many of these fans would party it up beforehand by creating a snuggly at Build-A-Bear while hopped up on Jamba Juice.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>I can't imagine too many of these fans would party it up beforehand by creating a snuggly at Build-A-Bear while hopped up on Jamba Juice. << You'd be surprised. The House of Blues has had punk and metal shows for years, and my impression is that they're mostly good for the other businesses. People shop and have dinner while waiting for the show, or stop in to ESPN Zone or Uva afterwards for a drink. It's not as though HoB books truly non-mainstream acts. Like it or not, heavy metal is mainstream, and most of the folks who go to these shows are the same people who patronize Disneyland.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <and most of the folks who go to these shows are the same people who patronize Disneyland.> Next thing you know, you'll be telling me people with tattoos and piercings also go to Disneyland.
Originally Posted By knoxvelour <<Disney has done the right thing, and let's hope they continue with keeping this kind of entertainment off its property. >> I wouldn't say they did the right thing, but the did do something that was within their rights. Personally, I don't agree with it as I've been to many punk shows at that venue and have NEVER seen a problem.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Any fans unable to make the 70-mile trip to The Glass House as a result of this ridiculous turn of events...> Just a note on a little hyperbole from the record company. Pomona is nowhere near 70 miles from Anaheim. More like 30-35, pretty much a straight shot up the 57. I think Disney should have honored the commitment considering how close it was to the event, and then made it clear to HOB what their standards were for booking acts in the future.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>>I see where you are coming from folks, but Disney made their choice years ago when partnering with HOB. They weren't an unknown quantity then. I really wanted to see Disturbed when they were at HOB WDW last year. But where do you draw the line. Britany Spears has not been a wholesome entertainer since producing her first record, and she did a gig at Disney Studios a few years back. How do you differentiate? I'm sorry guys, maybe it's being a San Francisican in Europe, but loosen up. It's not like it is inside the berm or a strip show. And there was likely to be age restrictions.<<<< EXCELLENT!!!! This post needed to be put up again as the only one with a brain. THANKS DAVEwasbaloo! All these posts on bad language and unsavory customers??!!! PEOPLE, THIS IS THE HOUSE OF BLUES NOT PLAYHOUSE DISNEY. To see these "unsavory?" acts, you must buy a ticket. No one is forcing you to view the concert, PERIOD. If after the performance, the crowd gets unruly, then Disney and the Anaheim police can step in and take matters in hand. Just like any other city with a well known concert venue would do. For Disney to censor what goes on inside of HoB is pretty ridculous. And of course, this is all IMO. Besides, who is to say which acts are "wholesome" and which are "crap"? Art and Entertainment is and will always be 100% subjective. You can say which you like or don't, no problem. I, personally, wouldn't be caught dead at a rap/hiphop show but I would never say they couldn't play, I just wouldn't go.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << PEOPLE, THIS IS THE HOUSE OF BLUES NOT PLAYHOUSE DISNEY. >> So why aren't they booking Blues or R&B acts? Where does a metal band fit in the "Blues" genre?
Originally Posted By Lisann22 I'm with Davewasbaloo also. This type of control of behavior - that's what this is, reminds me of company functions. "Remember to mind your p's and q's, watch yourself the bigwigs are here but HEY OPEN BAR FOR EVERYONE." Disney can't have it both ways. Create an atmosphere - Downtown Disney that is partly restaurants, shopping, bars and music and screams party! Then say "now behave yourself." Who did they think the House of Blues was going to book? Heck I can see more skin and hear just as foul language INSIDE the park. I personally think this is ridiculous.
Originally Posted By JenniBarra I'm still mulling this one over... I have actually been to a metal show at the Anaheim HOB, specifically Queensryche. It was a respectful crowd, no problem whatsoever that I could see. Of course, that's illustrating what's been mentioned already - that "metal" is such a broad term. In my household, we listen some progressive metal and, as a result, we've been to a fair number of shows. If you saw me or my husband in person, unless we were wearing some band t-shirt, you probably wouldn't know that we listen to the stuff. There's also a lot of other respectable people that fall into that category. It's painting with a broad brush to say that people that listen to X kind of music are a problem.
