Originally Posted By u k fan I don't think I have much more to add except for what I've already said. Amy Winehouse can do what she likes to herself either onstage or in private, but if her fans have a history of stepping outside of one of her concerts and shooting up then she is not acceptable at DtD. If her fans are all pleasant music lovers who want nothing more than a coffee after her show then she can play to her hearts content at DtD, imho. This isn't about a particular type of music and therefore at least on my part I don't feel prejudiced. So Solid Crew were a hiphop/garage/RnB outfit and people were regularly shot outside their concerts. Would I want them to perform at HOB? Short answer: no!!!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo -em posted on a WDW thread: >>>>>>> but I don't think closing COP for Night of Joy has anything to do with saving money.<< Same reason why TTA, CBJ and others like that are closed along with stores like Uptown and Marketplace... NOJ folks have the reputation of destruction and abuse to things and general lack of supervision. I KNOW it doesnt mean everyone who attends as most were quite nice and respectful but the minority ruins it for the majority. ie why one area had to damage out quite a few princess dresses and accessories as some guests thought itd be great to try on the much to small dresses and streach or ruin them in the dressing rooms...<<<<<< See -em's post demonstrates behaviour that to me is more deplorable than the actions of Machine Head fans at HOB. And yet, many of you are in favor of the cancellation of this gig. Here a holy roller group has shown more destructive behaviour than the scores of music fans visiting Disney resorts through the years. Hence why I say, where do you draw the line? I wanna rock n roll all night, and party every day - after all this is possible at DL.
Originally Posted By jonvn Then the NOJ people need to be kicked out, too. One group of people misbehaving is not an excuse for another group to do so.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I am sure there are people that moan about those wierdo Disneyfans amassing on July 17th each year. ;-)>> But they amass at Disneyland, which is where "Disney Weirdos" should amass.
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Originally Posted By Disneyland55 >>>Anyone notice if the movieplex avoids certain types of movies?<<< I don't know if they do now, but I remember seeing "Not Another Teen Movie" there. That is the filthiest movie I have ever seen. (I love it.)
Originally Posted By Zwitek <<< But if I go to DTD, I don't want to be around this sort of thing. <<< A lot of hyperbole is being bandied about. Lots of fear mongering and nonsense are evident in some of these posts. <<< But if I go to DTD, I don't want to be around this sort of thing. <<< No one is forced to interact with the band or their fans. You either buy a ticket, or you don't. Odds are you're having dinner or riding rides when they arrive for their show, and they're certainly leaving AFTER you've taken little Timmy and Sally home for the evening. Your opportunity to be "influenced" or "annoyed" by someone with differing musical tastes than yourself is slim at best. I don't care for Machinehead personally. There are bands that I've seen at HoB Anaheim (Social Distortion, Tiger Army) that some people here would find objectionable, but they speak to my life experiences. Just because you may not like it, doesn't mean your opinion should determine whether or not I can buy a ticket to see and hear them. If it was in public, and everyone could hear them, sure, it wouldn't be appropriate. It's in an enclosed venue, for persons that willingly pay to attend. I find the poppy adult contemporary that is performed by many street performers at DtD sickening. You won't hear me whining about it or cheering if it was somehow banned. People in general need to get over themselves and their own particular issues and understand that others sometimes like things that they themselves find unworthy of attention. Every generation has music that their elders just don't get. Sinatra, Elvis, The Doors, Guns N Roses, Nirvana, Green Day are all music acts that were adored by the youth of the day, and abhorred by the elder generation. Oh, and to the poster that judged without actually listening, and then defending their position..... It's harder to judge without experiencing, but if something isn't your cup of tea, say it's not your cup of tea, don't just label it unworthy because society has sunk so low. That's a cop out in my honest opinion.
Originally Posted By 8 ilovemickey 8 Inspector 57 said what I wanted to say perfectly! And I believe that is what most people were trying to say.
Originally Posted By jonvn "No one is forced to interact with the band or their fans." Unless they are milling about DTD. Sorry, but you know what? I don't want to be around them. And I don't have to listen to their junk when I've already found out enough about them. It shouldn't have to take an Einstein to figure out that you don't have to try absolutely everything to the fullest before you know you don't or won't like something. It's called having some sense in your head. "People in general need to get over themselves and their own particular issues " No. People need to realize that they should not impose their behavior on those who don't want to be around it.
Originally Posted By lasvegasgirl jonvn, I totally agree with you here. Junk is junk, and I am glad to see Disney taking a step to make sure garbage stays away from our Disney areas.
Originally Posted By Zwitek >>> People need to realize that they should not impose their behavior on those who don't want to be around it. <<< Words to live by to be sure. And nothing is being imposed upon. It's not like they are setting up shop in the Hyperion with a bunch of 5 year olds chained to their seats and their parents in leg irons who are forced to gnaw off a limb to escape. This is a paid venue, that is often only open to a select age group, and not some unwitting public. >>> Unless they are milling about DTD.>>> Odds are Jonvn, you HAVE been around them, and you never knew it. Know why? Because people that enjoy something that you obviously do not like actually, can, and do behave properly in public. Most music fans are not defined by their taste in music. I know plenty of persons that like all of the "right" kinds of music that are most disagreeable indeed. I won't get into any kind of flamewar, particularly on laughingplace, but I do find your aggressiveness on this subject intriguing. I mean, if a group of people ruined your experience once, great. Understood. Lots of groups get tarnished by the acts of a few jerks. On the other hand, if you are bringing some bias against a genre that you don't like, and feel far superior to, well then the discussion is really one way. Your way. Personally, I'd rather hang out with the spooky kids than intolerant "normal" folks any day of the week. To each their own I suppose. As long as they don't feel that their thoughts and opinions are gospel.
Originally Posted By Mr X **jonvn, I totally agree with you here. Junk is junk, and I am glad to see Disney taking a step to make sure garbage stays away from our Disney areas.** TOTALLY subjective. After all, Jon is a cantankerous old guy. However, I do agree with his point that the "death metal" element showing up for some of these kinds of shows does not bode well for the atmosphere in Downtown Disney. They're not just going straight to the show and straight back, they're probably gonna hang out too, and that's not the type of folks you'd normally expect to see in large groups at Disneyland. So, I'm torn here. While I think it's cool that HoB has various acts, I can see why they'd want to keep away the most extreme shows that tend to attract the most extreme fans. Question is, where do you draw the line?
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Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Personally, I'd rather hang out with the spooky kids than intolerant "normal" folks any day of the week. <<< Right on man!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>>Personally, I'd rather hang out with the spooky kids than intolerant "normal" folks any day of the week. <<< Odds are Zwitek, you HAVE been around them, and you never knew it. Know why? Because people that don't enjoy something that you obviously do actually, can, and do behave properly in public. ;-)
Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=80858" target="_blank">http://www.roadrunnerrecords.c om/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=80858</a> >>Greg Burk of the Los Angeles Times reports that five heavy-metal concerts scheduled at House of Blues clubs on Walt Disney Co. property in Anaheim, California and Orlando, Florida have been hastily shifted to other venues or canceled recently, according to House of Blues web site calendars. A Sept. 7 show featuring MACHINE HEAD, ARCH ENEMY, THROWDOWN and SANCTITY, booked two months earlier, was moved on two days' notice from the House of Blues in Anaheim's Downtown Disney entertainment complex to the Glass House in Pomona. Thursday's concert with CANNIBAL CORPSE, THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER, THE RED CHORD and THE ABSENCE, originally slated for the Anaheim House of Blues, was moved to the Galaxy Theatre in Santa Ana. A Sept. 26 Anaheim House of Blues concert featuring OBITUARY, ALABAMA THUNDERPUSSY, FULL BLOWN CHAOS and HEMLOCK has been canceled outright. At the House of Blues in Orlando, Fla., on Disney World property, a Sept. 17 concert of the MACHINE HEAD lineup has been moved to Club Firestone in downtown Orlando. The same action has been taken with the Oct. 11 CANNIBAL CORPSE package. Asked about the scheduling changes, John Vlautin, vice president of communications for Live Nation (formerly Clear Channel), the concert-promotion organization that owns the nationwide House of Blues chain, issued a statement Thursday that said only: "House of Blues offers a range of entertainment to match the audience at our venues. It was determined that the mix of entertainment at our two Disney locations should be different from our other venues." Vlautin declined to comment on why metal bands have been singled out after years of similar bookings or whether other metal events already scheduled, including SUFFOCATION, EDGUY and STATIC-X, will be affected. Rob Doughty, communications vice president for Disneyland Resorts, declined to comment, referring inquiries to Vlautin. Paul McGuigan, concert promoter at the Anaheim House of Blues, also declined to comment through a club spokeswoman. The Walt Disney Co., through Vlautin, issued a short statement Thursday that included no specifics about the shifts of the metal concerts: "In consultation with Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, the House of Blues will provide a mix of entertainment for guests visiting Disney Resorts." <<
Originally Posted By jonvn Sorry, but I'm tired of the phrase "intolerant" being tossed around as if it is bad. It's not. It's called standards. I'm not interested in being tolerant of people or things I personally find distasteful or repugnant. I don't have to tolerate these sorts of things, and I have no intention to start. Everyone is intolerant at some level. Those who wish to embrace a gutter culture, fine. My tolerance level is such that you can go do it elsewhere, and not invade a family place.
