Originally Posted By bean ">>>Anyone notice if the movieplex avoids certain types of movies?<<< I don't know if they do now, but I remember seeing "Not Another Teen Movie" there. That is the filthiest movie I have ever seen. (I love it.)" Yes that movie is filthy but i doubt it would prvoke anykind of disturbance like what could happen with drunken people in a concert. There are certain movies that would cause problems but most studios have tried to clear away from them, so have some theater chains
Originally Posted By Mr X **My tolerance level is such that you can go do it elsewhere, and not invade a family place.** That'd be Disney's fault for booking those acts in the first place, there's nothing wrong with those fans showing up (even if you don't like it). Seriously, why would Disney have been inviting a group called "Canibal Corpse" to perform anywhere on their property anyway!? They must have some sort of rules listed with the management of HoB, no? Why did they allow that stuff to go on at all?? Oh yeah. Money.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>That'd be Disney's fault for booking those acts in the first place, there's nothing wrong with those fans showing up (even if you don't like it). Seriously, why would Disney have been inviting a group called "Canibal Corpse" to perform anywhere on their property anyway!?<<< Disney doesn't book the talent for The House of Blues. Disney is just the landlord that House pays rent and a percentage to.
Originally Posted By Mr X I'm sure there's more to the contract than just that, T. No doubt, Disney has some sort of "morality" clause in all those contracts, or corporate image or something, and obviously they have an "override switch" that they obviously just made use of.
Originally Posted By jonvn Disney doesn't book them. And apparently, neither does HOB. HOB contracts out for that. Well, they may have an override switch, or they may have just started getting a bit antsy, and said something like "You're going to now be responsible for any extra security, damages, and complaints resulting in refunds of vacation packages or other fees paid to our guests." That would have been enough.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<"It was determined that the mix of entertainment at our two Disney locations should be different from our other venues.">> Too bad that that's the closest we get to an honest statement from either HOB or Disney.
Originally Posted By Zwitek <<< Sorry, but I'm tired of the phrase "intolerant" being tossed around as if it is bad. It's not. It's called standards. I'm not interested in being tolerant of people or things I personally find distasteful or repugnant. <<< Well, one mans garbage is another mans treasure. So your opinion is simply that. Yours. Not right, not wrong. Just yours. >>> I don't have to tolerate these sorts of things, and I have no intention to start. Everyone is intolerant at some level. Those who wish to embrace a gutter culture, fine. My tolerance level is such that you can go do it elsewhere, and not invade a family place.>>>> I guess I'll just have to move on, because I'm not really interested in being lectured by someone that is unwilling to see things from a different point of view. For the record, I'm a 40 year old that happens to love the big band era most of all, and I enjoy interacting with the spooky kids who are mostly quite intelligent, and respectful when shown respect. Many are just angst filled teenagers (unlikely at HoB where many shows are 21+) that have alternative interests and viewpoints. Many are uncomfortable or slightly introverted in public. None are automatons that wish to ruin your time at DtD because the devil wants them to. Anyway. As for the follow up article, I find it interesting that that there is no mention at all whatsoever of a list of "incidents" involving the fans of these groups at the Anaheim HoB. No mention of guest complaints about the spooksters. No babies burned in effigy. No satanic-naked-bongo dancing by their fans near the Jamba Juice. Just a corporate decision (their right to do so) to exercise control of content. I know there are other venues for these bands to play at, and I'm glad for that but I do find it disquieting that a corporation with a large piece of the overall entertainment pie, can tell us what we can see, where, and when. As much as I love most things Disney, this does not sit well with me. And will I complain? Not likely, but if they continue their path along content control, eventually they may hit upon a band that I do enjoy, and would travel from Northern California to see. And if I had to travel off-site to see that band, that's less time at the park. Less time at the park equals a loss of revenue for the property. And sure, it might be minimal, but it's speaking with my wallet rather than whining to City Hall.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Well, one mans garbage is another mans treasure. " That's nice. Don't put your garbage near me or get bent out of shape when it's told to you it is garbage, and that it's unwanted. Aside from that, sometimes garbage is just that. Cultural standards have fallen so far that stuff that is plainly worthless drivel is accepted by large portions of the population, and they think it's just fine and that it should be tolerated. Well, it's not fine, and I don't care to tolerate it. "I'm not really interested in being lectured by someone that is unwilling to see things from a different point of view." You're right. I'm flat out not interested in being told I should be more tolerant of what is basically filth. As I said, everyone is intolerant of something at some level. But for some reason, people seem to require that others be tolerant of the things they want them to be tolerant of. Well, no. I'm not. If you wallow in filth, I personally don't care. You want to splash some of it onto me, then I care. We'd all be a lot better off as a society if people would stop trying to bend over backwards to appease every little repulsive group of lowlife. Sometimes people need to realize their behavior is simply not acceptable and is unwanted.
Originally Posted By Zwitek <<< I don't care to tolerate it. >>> I think you've made that perfectly clear. Glad I don't know you personally.
Originally Posted By Mr X Zwitek, for the record Jon just celebrated his 108th birthday (CONGRATS, JON!! (you have to speak up for him right into that ear trumpet))... So go easy on him okay?
Originally Posted By Mr X Huh? No, I don't think so. Jon is just blunt in his delivery, he means well. DON'T YOU, JON?
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I think you've made that perfectly clear. Glad I don't know you personally.>> Let's see: jovn didn't meet your minimum standard, so you don't tolerate him. You are a lot more like him than you might think.
Originally Posted By jonvn Ha! Funny. True, though. Like I said, EVERYONE does these exact same thing. We are ALL intolerant at whatever it is we personally don't like, so to say that someone else is intolerant kind of really is empty.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I will also chime in with my personal opinion (flame away when ready, I'm wearing my asbestos suit). Knowing that I might find myself rubbing elbows with people who like to listen to music about bitches and ho's, about murder and mayhem, or any other unsavory topic, I am much less inclined to spend time at DtD in the evening. I think that Disney knows this (and that I am not the only one), hence their "censorship".
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "You want to splash some of it onto me, then I care. We'd all be a lot better off as a society if people would stop trying to bend over backwards to appease every little repulsive group of lowlife. Sometimes people need to realize their behavior is simply not acceptable and is unwanted. " If you could either get your head out of your butt, or stop talking out of it, you might realise how rediculous your post was. By the way, Disney equates garbage to many too.
Originally Posted By jonvn "you might realise how rediculous your post was." My post is not the least bit ridiculous. I don't think people have a right to impose their distasteful behavior onto others. "By the way, Disney equates garbage to many too." Then they don't have to go Disney parks, nor purchase their other products. More power to them. I really could not care less. I do care if something I enjoy gets polluted by no-account ruffians who seem intent on invading the sorts of things I enjoy, though. There is a time and a place for all things. People have standards, and it is not a bad thing they are enforced. You don't have the right to behave in absolutely any manner you want to regardless of how it affects others.
