Originally Posted By leobloom >> I'm guessing terrorist is likely the wrong word used- but Homeland Security protests things like all forms of mass transit...I hope they the book at the yahoo... one less moron on the street << I don't know. The people over at the MAGICal place are the ones touting it as a "terrorist" thing.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^ it would likely qualify under a heading with terrorism - I would not be surprised- anytime today a group of people are jeopardized because one idiot like this somehow feels entitled and empowered to take what he thinks is somehow his-- on a bus, train, plane etc. I think the resulting charges will end up in that kind of category. This idiot deserves more than a slap on the wrist...I'd like to see a serious fine, a significant amount of community service hours ( maybe driving a bus for convicts-), anger counseling mandatory, and maybe an overnight stay in the pokey with people who do this all the time.
Originally Posted By leobloom ^I agree he deserves punishment, but I'm not sure how he was endangering the people on the bus when it was parked and he was obviously not trying to hijack the vehicle. But whatever, I forgot that everything that contains anti-social sentiment is considered terrorism nowadays.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub ? does this category automatically apply if a person is not a citizen?
Originally Posted By Roger55 Attacking the operator of a vehicle that is carrying many passengers is a threat to their safety. Was the bus running? Could it have been engaged into gear or could the brakes been disenganged accidentally thus endangering the passengers? I would think so. Especially if the altercation ended up near the bus controls. I don't know if that constitutes a terrorist threat. If at any time the "yahoo" did make a comment threatening the operator, moving our not, maybe that is all that is required.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey Unless the Disney drivers uniforms have changed, that sure doesn't look like a Disney driver to me. I can't hear the audio (my computer is stuck on "mute" and I can't get it unstuck), but there was an incident on one of our buses earlier this year. A woman tried to board with her child in a stroller, and the driver politely told her she needed to remove the child and close the stroller before she could board. She said she couldn't because she didn't have anywhere to put the baby. He asked her again (still politely) and explained that it was a safety hazard to board with a child in a stroller. She exploded and began screaming at him. The driver maintained his cool, left the bus and grabbed a manager, who then removed the woman and her child from the bus. Many people are jerks nowadays. They want everyone to accommodate their needs and could care less who they upset to get their way.
Originally Posted By Terminus Well... To be fair, only I am important and everyone else doesn't matter.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<there you go spirit- gee what a surprise not DVC members- but likely a local tour bus...or one from not far away... yep- timeshares had a lot to do with this>> VBDAD, you need to step back and cool off here ... I wasn't saying DVC had a thing to do with the assault at all ... I just called WDW -- The Timeshare Kingdom of the World -- because that's what it is. You're being way overly defensive on this, like someone called on of your kids 'ugly' or something and it's starting to get annoying coming from someone I genuinely like and respect ... I am not a DVCer hater, I am a TDO hater ... and I am tired of seeing DVC AND resort rooms being built as the place gets Walmarted more by the day. That's it. I've said it for years, but you seem to have your fingers in your ears on this topic. You don't have to be the great DVC Defender when no one is even attacking it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I don't know. The people over at the MAGICal place are the ones touting it as a "terrorist" thing.>> the people over there, with some exceptions, are insane at best ...
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Yes that MAGICal site is the Fox News/Newsmax of Disney message boards.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Yes that MAGICal site is the Fox News/Newsmax of Disney message boards. >> And they are proud of it!
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 I am confused by two things. The first is the mother of the child did not throw her baby read the description on the bottom of the video. The husband had the baby at first and then threw the baby which the mother grabbed and backed away is what the description said. Also if what that one person was true about the undercover cop on the bus the incident would of ended in a minute not 3 minutes. DO you really think that police officer would wait for security. Which one has more power? But anyways, my whole thing is this. The guy was def in the wrong. He should never of caused a fight over a spot on the bus, there are so many disney world buses that its ridiculous to fight over one. But hey you got stupid people and they do stupid things, and then they pay the price.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad Another bus would have come along in a few minutes. I have actually decided to wait instead of cramming on one. How would you have liked to be one of the poor guests who had already boarded and are now stuck waiting till all this is sorted out?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I've said it for years, but you seem to have your fingers in your ears on this topic. You don't have to be the great DVC Defender when no one is even attacking it. ------ my fingers may be in my ears but my eyes see just fine. I agree it's getting annoying, but by that I mean the insinuation that DVC timeshares are responsible for all the ills of WDW - you certainly know they are not. so whether it's tongue in cheek or subliminal- you have read the threads here also and yes there is anti DVC sentiment - even if it might not be you. Why feed the fire - that's all I am asking?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 How would you have liked to be one of the poor guests who had already boarded and are now stuck waiting till all this is sorted out? ------------------------- exactly - everyone suffers for idiots like this. I am surprised another late night - tired guest didn't ask this guy what his problem was also-- this could have escalated far more than it did.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^ or maybe he was waiting for a Disney employee to take a poke back at him so he could sue... that also seems to be popular from goofs
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Sorry vbdad but I agree with Spirit concerning your post 17. "Timeshare Kingdom" of the world has been used way before the most recent topics started this month. It is not viewed personal attack on DVC and I have been a DVC owner since Dec.2000. I also think most professional therapists consider the use of the word idiot as very derogatory. It feels very aggressive online when used.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Wow. Just wow. The most unbelievable thing to me is that some here seem to be blaming Disney for this happening. At park closing there will ALWAYS be crowds... I don't care how many buses or drivers Disney has. I have always been amazed at how quickly and efficiently Disney handles the crowds at closing. I don't think I've ever waited longer than 15-20 minutes to catch a bus even at peak times. I've waited FAR LONGER to exit the Magic Kingdom area at close in my automobile than I've ever waited using Disney transit. But yea, it is all Disney's fault. If they weren't so darn busy building DVC hotels they could buy more buses and hire more drivers. Right
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I'm with vbdad. The "Timeshare Kingdom of the World" thing gets VERY stale... especially when it is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I'm with vbdad. The "Timeshare Kingdom of the World" thing gets VERY stale... especially when it is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.<<< How's it irrelevant? It's what Disney's focus is on these days, and if used to describe WDW, it's relevant. What's irrelevant is the random defense or tearing down of DVC... But mentioning it? It's a integral part of WDW (be that a good thing or bad, I won't comment on) and can be used to describe it. That's all, really.
