Originally Posted By RoadTrip The difference is the period of time that people are exposed to the G-forces. On coasters you are experiencing the maximum G-force for only fractions of a second. On Mission Space you experience G-Forces considerably above normal for 10 seconds (at least I think that is the duration I read).
Originally Posted By RoadTrip By the way... I love the original version and except for trying the new version once (like Labuda) I'll never go on it again. I do think it is good to offer both options though. I wish they would come up with a ToT Lite. I would love for my wife to see the attraction but she can't deal with the fast drop. She's gone through the pre-show and taken the chicken-door before getting on the elevator. Unfortunately, by doing that she misses several very cool effects on the car’s way to the drop shaft.
Originally Posted By leemac <<you are experiencing the maximum G-force for only fractions of a second. >> It should be noted that you only reach about 2.3 G. That is not a significant force.
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Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<<<you are experiencing the maximum G-force for only fractions of a second. >> It should be noted that you only reach about 2.3 G. That is not a significant force.>> On Mission Space you experience a little over 2 G's for 15 seconds. G-forces experienced on Disney Coasters are: Rock N Roller 4.5G Space Mountain 3.5G Big Thunder Mountain 2.5G Source: <a href="http://www.local6.com/news/5423136/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.local6.com/news/542 3136/detail.html</a>
Originally Posted By englishboy I would bet those Gs on the coasters are for LESS than 1 second each, maybe as little as 1/10th of a second. As you know--and as has been discussed many times--it's the unique position of the sustained G force.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd I know we all love Disney, but does anyone here go to an old fashion amusement park or carnival? Does anyone remember these rides???? <a href="http://www.ride-extravaganza.com/rides/" target="_blank">http://www.ride-extravaganza.c om/rides/</a> Subjecting people to sustained g-forces through a centrafuge is nothing new. The amusement industry has been doing it for decades now. Come on guys; the Round-up, the Gravitron, the Tilt-a-whirl??? These rides hit a sustained force of up to 4 G's for longer then Mission Space. And these rides probably have the same affect on people as most of the people here are describing. They make you motion sick. And that can definately ruin your day, but it isn't going to kill you. The people who died on Mission Space had pre-existing conditions. They did not die from G-forces. They most likely died due to the adrenaline reaction to thrill rides causing a surge in blood pressure and heart rate. I'm sorry to kill the mystery, but Mission Space is nothing but a plussed Tilt-a-Whirl and compared to many of the other rides out there, it isn't a very fast one.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Very good point, sherrytodd. It is weird that 'Mission:Space' has everyone freaked out. I take meds for high blood pressure, and I would probably skip it.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd ^^And that is very smart Jim. I believe that the warnings on the rides are there for a reason. People don't just die on Mission Space. There have been deaths on many rides due to pre-existing conditions. Even at a place as safe as Disney World, people do need to recognize their limits.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I skip it every trip. I just don't need to deal with the headache its going to give me.
Originally Posted By trailsend >>>><<At any point during your first encounter with MS while waiting in line and reading the warning signs, did you think, this might be to dangerous to ride... that I might die... just curious>> I was terrified of the thing with all the warnings. I wasn't scared of dying, but I thought there was a good chance I would toss my cookies. I love this ride and have never had any problems on it even though I would get sick on the Tea Cups and Body Wars. The centrifugal force of most rides at the carnivals and amusement parks are far worse and last longer then the G-force on Mission Space. Does anyone remember the ride where everyone would stand along the outside of the circle and then it would start spinning so fast that you were pinned to the wall and then the floor would drop away? You couldn't even raise your hands the force was so great.<<<< sherrytodd ~ I'm thinking we are twins. You say exactly what I always intend to post!! But also, another answer to pixiedust1 is I always think that the log is going to fall off the track on Splash Mountain ~ at the top! I'm always thinking to myself, "Well, this could be the first time something happens." But, I still ride everything and I'm no spring chicken.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I've been on about a dozen of the rides that were listed there, including those listed by sherrytodd. The only ride that ever made me almost puke (besides teacups) was Chaos. That thing was sheer torture. I spent the entire time wishing I could get off. That's the only time a ride has ever done that to me. My favorite thriller of all time was missing from that site though... does anyone else remember Skydiver??
Originally Posted By trailsend >>>>Subjecting people to sustained g-forces through a centrafuge is nothing new. The amusement industry has been doing it for decades now. Come on guys; the Round-up, the Gravitron, the Tilt-a-whirl??? These rides hit a sustained force of up to 4 G's for longer then Mission Space. And these rides probably have the same affect on people as most of the people here are describing. They make you motion sick. And that can definately ruin your day, but it isn't going to kill you.<<<< well, sherrytodd, I'm taking from you again . . .we have a Shriner's Circus every fall here and one year my husband got on the old "Scrambler", remember that one? 3 carriages that rotate in a circle as they rotate around the whole thing (not a very good explanation). Well, my husband got so sick on this one year, it was horrible. It literally did ruin his evening. So, needless to say, he passes on Mission: Space.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd RT we have Chaos here at Eliches in Denver. I've looked at it and for the life of me I can not figure out why on earth I would want to subject myself to that! It looks absolutely horrible! One go-round for me on the Octopus and I'm done for the day.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I take meds for high blood pressure, and I would probably skip it.>> I take meds for high blood pressure (two different ones), high cholesterol, high triglycerides, and one to keep me off the cigarettes. Better living through chemistry I always say. No ride has ever bothered me. I think it is those with undiagnosed or uncontrolled problems that really need to worry. My meds will keep me safe; if not at least I'll die with a smile on my face.
Originally Posted By Labuda "At any point during your first encounter with MS while waiting in line and reading the warning signs, did you think, this might be to dangerous to ride... that I might die... just curious" Nope, but I su7re thought that the first time I rode Rock n' Roller Coaster. Ditto the first time I rode Tower of Terror, and ESPECIALLY my first time on Splash Mountain. ALso, I first rode M:S pre-=barf bag, and I think the warnings are the same now as they were before the barf bags. "^^ but there are a lot of rollercoasters that exert significantly larger G-forces. If I recall correctly several of WDW's own coasters have more positive and negative Gs than M:S. There was an Orlando Sentinel article talking about this that someone posted on the boards." True, lee, but M:S keeps the G-forces going longer - instead of a second or two, you get many seconds of it.
Originally Posted By a1stav My primary intrest in this news is from an operational standpoint. Will they reserve one centrfiuge for non-motion. Or will they have a "chicken" holding pen, when there is enough pepople to fill up one centrifuge they will load that one up and run it without motion.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 Ok... Check this out... <a href="http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4201/ch2-4.htm" target="_blank">http://history.nasa.gov/SP-420 1/ch2-4.htm</a>
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire Maybe there will be some motion, and make it like "Body Wars" or Star Tours" I dont know - I guess we will have to wait and see but dont knock it until you try it! I have never tried M:S but I am by no means calling it a bad ride. I get nauseating headaches after Star Tours, and have high blood pressure so I do not need to be going on M:S to ruin my day.
