Disney confirms "Flash Mountain" starting May 3

Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

"Why it gives any attention to this particular antisocial behavior is beyond me."

What makes it anti-social? If anything, it's probably a little too pro-social.

"Its something 99.9% of guests will have no experience with at all. Most of the ones who do are either a) doing something inappropriate and offensive to others or b) are being negatively impacted by the people doing it."

Or C) aren't doing anything offensive to others but a get a kick out of the idea that people would flash the camera on Splash Mountain. I think the majority of people fall into this category.

 

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Originally Posted By ecdc

I think that's an interesting perspective, markymouse. I don't entirely disagree, and I do appreciate you putting it in those terms.

I would say, however, that a male at a middle school is a predator, while a group of twenty-somethings on Splash Mountain are people having a good time who exhibit poor judgment. I'm not excusing it, and I think your post is a good reminder that Disneyland is a public place where people ought to respect others. Personally, if my kids and I are coming off of Splash Mountain and we saw something like that, my wife and I would laugh and we'd explain it as best we could to our kids. I wouldn't be that bothered. But, I don't think it's fair to expect everyone to respond like I would.

And you couldn't be more right about the cultural double-standard regarding male/female nudity. This isn't World Events, so I won't digress here, but suffice it to say it's just wrong on so many levels.

 

Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

"But Disneyland is not an adult setting that kids are a guest in. It is a children's setting that adults are the guests in."

Disneyland is for everyone. You don't need a kid to get in. I see a ton of childless couples and teenagers there having a good time just like everyone else.

I'm not saying that people should go around with their junk hanging out, men and women. But if someone decided to be mischievous and flash their boobs on Splash Mountain, I just don't feel outraged at that. It's a funny thing, like mooning someone, that most people don't really care about. I'm glad people would flash their boobs on Splash instead of mooning because mooning the camera would be dangerous.

And here's the kicker, even at the height of the Flash Mountain phenomenon, there weren't that many people doing it. There aren't that many people interested in being the girl from Girls Gone Wild. And when it does happen, ignoring it or having a cheap laugh is usually the best way to handle it.

I do agree that there is a double standard when it comes to men and women baring their chests, and I think it's okay for both to go topless where ever people go topless.

 

Originally Posted By ecdc

Spokker, I share your sentiments. I really do. I think our entire culture would be far, far better off if we'd just all lighten up about this stuff. Then we could teach our children to lighten up about it instead of turning into Helen Lovejoy screaming, "Won't someone please think of the children!"

But we're not going to change the world getting people to relax about "Flash Mountain." The truth is, it's going to really bother some people. We're not talking about a woman breastfeeding in public and being condemned for it. Is it really too much to ask people to keep their shirts down at Disneyland?

 

Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

"Is it really too much to ask people to keep their shirts down at Disneyland?"

You can ask, but those who are going to do it are going to do it anyway.

 

Originally Posted By wonderingalice

Regarding distribution of the "bad" photos... I think your experience was very rare, SaraTonin. Mr. Alice and I had a photo "washed away" simply because I was mock-strangling him on the way down the drop. *L*

And I'm sure I read in an article (Miceage?) that although they'll appear on the preview screen now, the clerks at the photo shop will be checking for the flash stuff and will not allow those photos to be purchased.

We usually buy one Splash Mountain photo per Disneyland trip and always try and do something unique to make it fun and different. No more "strangling" though. Hee hee... ;-)

 

Originally Posted By Bellella

Confession time! I was once chastised for kissing my boyfriend on Snow White's Scary Adventures (they have cameras there, too). To me, that was embarrassing. Come on, everybody. Have a little more maturity and respect for everyone else, and keep your fingers in and your clothes on when you ride anything.

 

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Originally Posted By wonderingalice

^^Heh heh heh heh... Love your evilness... ;-)

 

Originally Posted By Bellella

Any other position besides the middle finger position.

 

Originally Posted By markymouse

I shouldn't have gotten quite so high on my high horse last night. This isn't WE.

 

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Originally Posted By wonderingalice

^^*LMAO*

Mr. Alice changed his town-of-origin on his work nametag to "Hutchison, MN" from "San Francisco, CA" several years ago after declining a few "special offers" from really friendly gamblers. ;-)

 

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Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82

^^^LOL! What's most important is that it's a magical day for all. Including Mr. Alice! Love it.


I wouldn't worry too much about my kid seeing a rouge boob at Disneyland. I mean my parents undressed in front of me all the time and my mom still uses the bathroom with the door open. Of course they're hippies who still wear tie-dye. The point is, I already knew what a boob was when I was a kid and I don't think it would have traumatized me at Disneyland. NO I don't think it's appropriate and I think it's distasteful but people are going to do what they're going to do.

 

Originally Posted By Moon Waffle

Well to me the act in and of itself may not be the end of the world, but what is? I mean, where do you draw the line? If it's OK for someone to flash, then is the middle finger OK? What about making gang signs? How about a t-shirt with a huge f-word on it?

Some of you may say, "oh yeah, well Disney would draw the line at [xx]", but how could they? Where is that fine line in the sand?

Personally I feel Disneyland is a family atmosphere and that needs to be maintained. Flashing your boobs - for whatever reason - is not something that should be taking place in Disneyland. As soon as that becomes acceptable, we've allowed society to take Disneyland in a very bad direction.

 

Originally Posted By Dabob2

<Confession time! I was once chastised for kissing my boyfriend on Snow White's Scary Adventures (they have cameras there, too). >

Really? I've kissed my spouse in dark rides lots of times. Always in Peter Pan (personal tradition) and often on others, usually if we're the only ones in the vehicle, or in the back. Never gotten chastised for it; my guess is you got an over-zealous CM.