Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I am from the north and I keep my thermostat at around 62 or 63 degrees. That is a temperature that is comfortable for me. So in the warmer weather, the inside temperature of 76 or 78 is quite uncomfortable for me. I don't need it to be 62, but 70 or 71 is acceptable. I am not against not cooling empty air all day either so I am OK with a timed unit as long as it can be overridden if I'm there during the day.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Sorry, I should have said 62 or 63 degrees in the winter. That saves a lot of energy that I take possession of in the summer. My experience is that it is way cheaper to cool a place then to heat it in my neck of the woods.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I am not against not cooling empty air all day either so I am OK with a timed unit as long as it can be overridden if I'm there during the day.*** That's pretty much how I feel. If they want to keep things "neutral" while I'm not there, that's one thing...but I want to decide what the conditions should be once I return..for sure!
Originally Posted By mickeymeg I think this is a great idea. I have not been to WDW yet, but I know in DL I find it really bugs me that I always need to carry a jacket around with me so I don't freeze any time I go into a building. I think AC is good, but it doesn't need to be kept near the extremes that it is.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Next they will limit the amount of hot and cold water. WDW hotel rooms provide a ceiling fan (not in Values)which helps circulate air.I can't remember if Disney resort rooms have ceiling fans...I noticed the "Control" about a year ago in the Values. Last week the thermostat barely worked for 15min whether or not you wanted hot or cold air at POP...That is why I stay at the Values. Why pay 250 and more to be angry. I expect very little from Disney anymore and just have to make myself happy with the Mouse!!! I was very generous with giving money to Disney for many years but not anymore. And the price at the Values is creeping up. Warning to RV/Campgrounds at the Wilderness. People were talking about the pool updates and improvements and how it was affecting the campground pricing. Also unhappy people. But hey the parks and hotels were packed!!!
Originally Posted By MousDad Sadly, this kind of "AC Rationing" is all too common in offsite condo/timeshare locations as well. You would expect it there with cheap owners involved, but not in a Disney Resort at up to $400 a night. It's actually not a problem on the really hot days. 76 when it's 98 outside feels like Antarctica. The problem is the other half of the year when it's 80 and humid. AC won't kick on if it's locked at 76, but it will be sticky and uncomfortable.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I'll buy this "environmental" reasoning better if when I get back to my room in the evenings the plushes aren't watching TV.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I am doing some research on Walt Disney World and Energy Conservation and came accross this news release: <a href="http://corporate.disney.go.com/environmentality/energy_conservation.html" target="_blank">http://corporate.disney.go.com...ion.html</a>
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Wow Disney is really into this. <a href="http://www.wdwpublicaffairs.com/ContentDrillDown.aspx?DisplayItem=f7168b42-4887-4654-b6c2-863a64d86158" target="_blank">http://www.wdwpublicaffairs.co...64d86158</a> OK, so they reclaim water, got rid of the incandescent lighting and put in LED lighting....
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom And then there is this published today! Talk about a timely thread! <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-bk-disney-greenhouse-gas-03-09-2009,0,5513105.story" target="_blank">http://www.orlandosentinel.com...05.story</a> The Walt Disney Co. will seek to cut companywide greenhouse-gas emissions in half during the next four years, and reduce electricity consumption by 10 percent over the next five, as part of a series of environmental goals outlined today. <<The chief targets: Disney's theme parks, resorts and cruise ships, which, according to internal figures, account for 91 percent of the company's total greenhouse-gas emissions and 73 percent of its electrical use.>> Psssst...... Disney, geothermal heating and cooling systems. Or I guess if you want to reduce green house gases you could alwasy build that Nuclear Power plant you got permission to build.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Well, when the temperature dips my A/C just doesn't turn on. Isn't that the point of a thermostat?>> I think that what was asked is: what do you do when the temperature drops to near freezing in the winter? Do you set your thermostat to 68 like most folks do in the snow belt, or do you "crank it up" to 76-78?
Originally Posted By MPierce Well, if all of this is true, I guess I'm alright with it. After all it won't be effecting me because I won't be staying at WDW period. I'm just about sick of this going GREEN nonsense.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin You're just baiting me...don't think I don't know that you don't know.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 The issue really comes down to whether you as a consumer feel that Disney should have the right to determine what your individual level of comfort to sleep, relax, do whatever ... in your pricey resort room. I am all for going green ... I want to save the planet ... I will never want to drill anything in Alaska (well, maybe one hottie who looks like Tina Fey, only much less intelligent) ... I even think Al Gore is a much better spokesman for the problems of global warming than he was as a politician. But when I stay at a hotel, I want ... no, I DEMAND the right to be a comfortable temp. For me, it's almost always going to be around 70 degrees. And there's a huge difference to me between 70 and 76. I have no issue if they lower the temp when I am not in the room. That's fine and make sense. However, i can't agree that they should shut the thing off like they do in Europe. If you leave a Florida hotel room at 10 a.m. in June and return eight hours later sans AC, you'll likely find the temp in the room is hovering around 90 ... and it will take HOURS to cool down to any reasonable temp. That's just not acceptable to me. And I doubt most people want their room temps controlled anymore than they'd like Disney to decide what they will eat or when they should sleep/get up. At some point, it's just all a a load of bull*&%$. ~76 degrees isn't kewl and sure ain't cool~
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I am all for going green ... I want to save the planet ... I will never want to drill anything in Alaska (well, maybe one hottie who looks like Tina Fey, only much less intelligent) ... I even think Al Gore is a much better spokesman for the problems of global warming than he was as a politician. << You need to get off this Sarah Palin kick. You're much to liberal for her. She'd only break your heart. Better to stay with those academic dynomos like Tina Fey. Al Gore, let's see.... isn't he the one who gave us the internet? It's really hard to keep track of him his carbon foot print is so tiny. ~The Irish have been going GREEN forever~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<You need to get off this Sarah Palin kick. You're much to liberal for her. She'd only break your heart.>> I appreciate you looking out for my feelings. And that you recognize that I do have a heart. As to the liberal part, I have this feeling that Sarah will do anything to stay in the spotlight ... even if that meant doing a 180 in her stances. <<Better to stay with those academic dynomos like Tina Fey.>> I was at a few parties (post Emmy bashes) last year where she was ... I feel badly I didn't go up to her, but she had a posse with her. She just seemed so happy and gave off a very friendly aura. <<Al Gore, let's see.... isn't he the one who gave us the internet? It's really hard to keep track of him his carbon foot print is so tiny.>> If he is responsible for this horrible Internet thingee then we should put him on an ice berg in the Arctic ... that's melting. ~Is it me or was Disney better before the Internet Era?~
Originally Posted By alexbook >>~Is it me or was Disney better before the Internet Era?~<< Or did it seem better because we didn't know so much about it?
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb When living in AZ I discovered it was much more expensive and wasted much more electricity turning off the AC during the day and trying to cool it back down in the evening than it did to just let it run all day at say 75 to 80 (lowering the temp to the 68 to 72 range when people are home). I don't mind going green I just don't want to sleep in a stuffy room.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >>~Is it me or was Disney better before the Internet Era?~<< <<Or did it seem better because we didn't know so much about it?>> Nah. I knew just as much about the WDW of 1989 back in 1989 as I do the WDW of 2009 in 2009. Things were better. ~The Internet Destroys Dreams!~
