Originally Posted By DAR Yeah as much as I loved the stuff during Walt's era his big movies were never orignal stories. How he made them was original
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Totally different -- comparing what the Walt Disney Company did to the stories of Cinderella or Snow White or Sleeping Beauty or even The Little Mermaid. None of those stories was an established brand the way Marvel Entertainment characters are. I can't see Disney re-inventing Captain America like was done with Batman recently. A production arm of Disney could do something new (Jerry Bruckheimer's twist on Captain America) but even if they were to do that -- that 'new' version of Captain America doesn't become 'Disney's Captain America' the way Cinderella or Belle or Aladdin have become with the animated stuff. Or maybe it does... I hate this partnership. I feel like I'm watching two good friends announce their engagement. I love them both individually, but when I see them together I go 'ehhhh.'
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Totally different -- comparing what the Walt Disney Company did to the stories of Cinderella or Snow White or Sleeping Beauty or even The Little Mermaid." Yes, I agree Jim, it is different. Still, I don't think it's *that* different. Furthermore, in 10, 20, 30 years I don't think that anyone will really care about this or how Marvel heroes came into Disney's portfolio of characters. "...'new' version of Captain America doesn't become 'Disney's Captain America' the way Cinderella or Belle or Aladdin have become with the animated stuff." What if Disney did an edgy animated feature with Captain America or some other character? What if Pixar were involved? I think that there are multiple ways Disney could use these properties to enhance them... if they do it right. "I hate this partnership. I feel like I'm watching two good friends announce their engagement." Since I've never been a superhero fan it really doesn't bother me, although I can see where you're coming from. I think I'm just glad that Disney has something marketable under its belt that isn't fey, cutesy, or precious. My only concern with Marvel now is how they are used in the parks.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Jim, call me in 5 years, if it doesn't work out, I owe you a beer, if it does work out, you owe me a beer? Sound good?
Originally Posted By Hista98 Hasn't Disney always done that? It's not like Walt Disney wrote Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, or Alice in Wonderland. good point Hans, what i meant was that they had to buy out another companys charecters, rather then the ones they used in their films, its not like disney is running out of charecters to use, i won't beleive that until I see Bongo riding a unicycle down the streets of fantasyland!!!
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 He has come back to life.... Nobody stays dead in the comics, except Gwen Stacy.... <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2009/06/15/2009-06-15_some_comic_relief_captain_america_is_coming_back_to_life_in_a_new_fivepart_serie.html" target="_blank">http://www.nydailynews.com/ent...rie.html</a>
Originally Posted By Hista98 i hate when they do that, its makes them look like they are imortale even though they are regualr humans(most of them) if you are going to kill off a superhero kill him and make up a new one to replace him!!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "its not like disney is running out of charecters to use, i won't beleive that until I see Bongo riding a unicycle down the streets of fantasyland!!!" Yes, you make a good point, however I think it's safe to say that the idea here is to milk both Disney's existing characters AND Marvel's. I think it's also reasonable to assume that though there may be some crossover, Marvel attracts a different demographic (teen and young adult males) than most of Disney's existing characters.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<i won't beleive that until I see Bongo riding a unicycle down the streets of fantasyland!!!">> Maybe they will work him in at the new Dumbo's Circus area at the Magic Kingdom's Fantasyland...
Originally Posted By monorailblue I just thought of something--perhaps this acquisition will keep Jay Rasulo's focus away from Disneyland for a few years! What a tremendous gift that would be.
Originally Posted By knoxvelour so how long until I can buy a Mickey dressed as Spiderman, Goofy as Captain America or a Donald as Wolverine plush doll?
Originally Posted By Hista98 it's interesting, fanboy said on the podcast that they bought Marvel to really attract the teen boy set,but they won't, even if they did buy marvel. Why? for two big reasons 1. most boys that age hate disney, they think it is for babies and won't really like it no matter what they do. 2. they love marvel, but they don't like disney and won't be thrilled with the probable violent free approach disney will take with it, if anything this will most likely push that age group away more.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 2. they love marvel, but they don't like disney and won't be thrilled with the probable violent free approach disney will take with it, if anything this will most likely push that age group away more.<< Do you have any proof on this or are you just talking out of your behind? There is no proof that Disney is asking Marvel to do anything of the sort...
Originally Posted By Hista98 yes, i was that age at one point and i was made fun of for being the only boy who liked disney, plus my borther and cousin are that age and neither them or there friends or anyone there age likes disney, and when i told them about marvel, they acted like the world was ending
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think he was more questioning the idea that Disney would make Marvel non-violent, rather than the disappointment. The disappointment/concern seems to be well known with this, from both the Disney fans and the Marvel fans. But is there any evidence that Disney will take Marvel's material and make sure it isn't too violent? I doubt that they will really have any control, other than perhaps stamping a small Disney logo on the back of products. Disney sees that Marvel works for what it is, and that's why it's successful, and successful with an audience that Disney has had problems with for many many years. If they wanted to acquire Marvel because they wanted the boy market that they can't get on their own, they should also have enough sense to see that whatever they're doing for boys hasn't been working, and they just need to let Marvel be Marvel. I'm not terribly concerned about Disney getting overly involved with what is and isn't allowed to be released by Marvel, strictly on a level of what is "Disney appropriate".
