Disney & Marvel... what does it mean for DLR?

Originally Posted By FerretAfros

Dalmatians!!!

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

"my borther and cousin are that age and neither them or there friends or anyone there age likes disney, and when i told them about marvel, they acted like the world was ending."

Marvel will most likely be run as a separate brand much like Pixar was prior to its merger with Disney. A lot of people don't know that Miramax, which distributed "Kill Bill", is a division of Disney. Tell your cousin not to worry.

 

Originally Posted By Neologos

Well I am back home and I have already had my trip back to disney. I know I am in the minority here but I walked abround Disney think where would marvel fit. I saw the last day of halloween themed stuff. The "haunted" space mountain. Was a simple upgrade with a non-disney monster and it was a nice twist on an old ride.

I am just asking but, why couldn't a marvel property be used instead of a some ghost/monster out of nowhere.
No differece, from my point of view.

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

Since themes and storytelling at DL has gone by the wayside, there is no difference at all. There was a time when it would be unthinkable that there would be ghosts inside Space Mountain. You are absolutely right.

 

Originally Posted By WilliamK99

Since themes and storytelling at DL has gone by the wayside, there is no difference at all.<<

So what was the theme of the Bathroom of tomorrow?

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

It was a showcase of modern conveniences and plumbing technology sponsored by Crane.

Today the colorful displays would be plastered with Pixar characters and hidden Mickey silhouettes.

 

Originally Posted By WilliamK99

I would rather see pictures of Pooh, then go to an attraction about the same....

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

So what does any of that have to do with Marvel or the direction that DL is going today?

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

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Originally Posted By WilliamK99

So what does any of that have to do with Marvel or the direction that DL is going today?<<

You were the one complaining about lack of themes and storytelling, and I am tryin gto show you that Disney has never had great themes and storytelling, not in the way the haters believe... This hunky dory picture of how great Disneyland was in 1955 is just an illusion, Walt had a ton of attractions based on his movies/shows...

 

Originally Posted By mawnck

>>This hunky dory picture of how great Disneyland was in 1955 is just an illusion<<

<a href="http://miehana.blogspot.com/2008/05/man-of-la-muncha_11.html" target="_blank">http://miehana.blogspot.com/20..._11.html</a>

Now THAT'S Disney story telling.

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

“You were the one complaining about lack of themes and storytelling, and I am tryin gto show you that Disney has never had great themes and storytelling, not in the way the haters believe... This hunky dory picture of how great Disneyland was in 1955 is just an illusion, Walt had a ton of attractions based on his movies/shows...”

Either you are just being obtuse or you’ve misunderstood what I’m trying to say. I’ll assume that you’ve misunderstood.

Forget about Disneyland circa 1955. I’m primarily talking about the Disney that conjured up marvels like Tomorrowland 67, Pirates, Haunted Mansion, EPCOT, Indiana Jones Adventure, and Tokyo DisneySea.

Those parks and attractions, and a myriad of projects in-between, are examples of the excellent immersive storytelling with strong thematic elements that is the hallmark of what sets Disney apart from its competitors. Does Disney take liberty with its themes? Well of course - just look at that big pink castle at the end of Main Street.

I’m not asking for purity, I’m simply asking that Disney stay true to the intent behind the park’s thematic lands. Disney reinvented the amusement park experience by creating thoughtful and detailed environments. Sticking Spiderman (or some other Marvel character) in Space Mountain is probably inevitable, but man, is it a hard a pill to swallow.

 

Originally Posted By WilliamK99

Forget about Disneyland circa 1955. I’m primarily talking about the Disney that conjured up marvels like Tomorrowland 67, Pirates, Haunted Mansion, EPCOT, Indiana Jones Adventure, and Tokyo DisneySea<<

You forget, Indiana Jones is a movie tie in, no difference than the tooning up of the parks...

But you are correct, I did misunderstand you, and there are way too many toons in the park, but just because it is toon based does not discount it from telling a story... I have high hopes for the Cars Land being built in DCA....

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

"You forget, Indiana Jones is a movie tie in, no difference than the tooning up of the parks..."

I never said that I was opposed to movie tie-ins. I think that the scale has tipped too far in favor of them, but I don't think a few here and there are bad.

 

Originally Posted By Socrates

Just to butt in here and cause trouble,

Pirates of the Caribbean does a lousy job of telling a story, since it starts out with skeletons. Shouldn't that be the end result (like at Disneyland Paris)?

Socrates
"The unexamined life is not worth living."