Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "So if you dont like them in PP, thats fine, they're not going there anyway (I'm guessing...but who knows ), WHERE exactly would you put them??" Well, some of them might fit in Tomorrowland if the storyline there were altered slightly into science fiction theme. With Buzz and Star Tours already there, such a theme is a no-brainer and superheros wouldn't be incongruous with that. Another idea is a theme park or land devoted solely to Marvel characters. Obviously the movie themed parks like DHS and DSP would be perfect fits. There are plenty of options for these character franchises without sticking the Incredible Hulk on top of Screamin' or Spiderman conducting a meet and greet in front of Cinderella Castle.
Originally Posted By DAR <<When I was a kid, I didn't like to play with Hot Wheels and Tonka trucks at the same time. They were of two different worlds, two entirely different scales.>> GI Joe, Star Wars, He-Man, Transformers, Voltron and the Thunder Thunder Thundercats hooooooooo all found a way into my toy world.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<<I think the concern is that none of those films had walk-a-round animated characters that could be (potentially) used.>> You didn't want to see a walk-a-round Gimp character from Pulp Fiction.*** ROTFLMAO
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<(Copies and pasted from the Disney business section). <The Orlando Sentinel states "Marvel also has various deals with the two-park Universal Orlando. The agreements governing two of Universal's hugely popular rides, The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man and The Incredible Hulk roller coaster, appear to be virtually perpetual deals. According to Universal's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Universal Orlando retains American rights east of the Mississippi River for as long as its attractions are in operation."> Hm... could Spiderman (the ride) end up in HPB at DCA, then??>> There is NO WAY that Universal’s Spiderman attraction will be in any Disney park. Universal developed that attraction and owns it completely. They DO pay for the licensing of Spiderman and that fee will now go to Disney. But the attraction itself is totally Universal’s.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<lesmisfan: i dont know how i feel with marvel being with disney now. How is that going to effect the rides at islands of adventures? well they stay or be rethemed? the only way i see marvel characters in the parks is if they used them for a third theme park or a possible new themepark in orlando unless disney just takes islands of adventures of universals hands, which i don't they will because of the harry potter land going in right now>> The rides at Universal will remain the same until Universal decides to remove them. The Spiderman attraction was developed by Universal and will be theirs even if they eliminate Spiderman. Disney has no rights to that technology just because they made a Marvel deal. All they will get is the licensing fees that Universal used to pay Marvel.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I doubt you'll see anything Marvel related at DL. But I'd count on some Marvel Mart prototype store at DD. And somewhere down the line you might see some kind of show at DCA ... and maybe even an attraction looking toward the end of the next decade. But really don't see anything big stateside on the theme park side unless Disney decides Regional Entertainment can do mini-Marvel parks across the country that won't hurt DL/WDW business. I think CHINA is where Marvel winds up in theme parks. Considering how long Disney has been chasing Marvel, it wouldn't surprise me if Shanghai DL suddenly had a Marvel-themed land to set it apart from the others. Although I sincerely hope not. Then there's the Marvel Super Heros Park set to open in Dubailand in 2012 is out there ... and while I detest the thought of Disney doing business there, I wonder if they feel the Marvel 'brand' can be used to test the waters.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<PetesDraggin: My guess is that, with over 5,000 characters in the Marvel universe, Pixar gets its hands on some of the more obscure but marketable ones and makes some movies. This makes these Marvel characters much more Disney-fied and easier to integrate into the theme parks.>> Well, after other studios have produced films based on most of the popular characters, AND Close to 4988 (+/-) of the remaining characters are mostly extras and background “characters” (minions, associates, crowds, etc.) that, for the most part, aren’t top superhero material. Of course there may indeed be some obscure character that could be developed, but Disney hasn’t really had the capability to produce any significant superhero action adventure films (since Condor Man?).
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan << Spirit of 74: Then there's the Marvel Super Heros Park set to open in Dubailand in 2012 is out there ... and while I detest the thought of Disney doing business there, I wonder if they feel the Marvel 'brand' can be used to test the waters.>> Maybe that’s why Marvel decided to sell to Disney. With the Dubai projects suffering from the economic downturn, is it possible that Disney may find itself having to follow through on a Marvel deal that was faltering and that would end up costing them with little benefit?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It's funny, I am not worried about the heroes working their way into the parks, in fact I would welcome them in the film based parks. What I am worried about is Disney screwing up Marvel. In fact yesterday we were at a Thrill Park for my brothers' sakes, and there was a group of guys in line all in MArvel T-Shirts. I asked them if they had heard the news. They had not and when I told them, you think I told them their mother died. It is funny how people are having kittens from both sides. It will be interesting to watch, but I am worried. No one else is likely to be interested in making the hero films, and let's face it, Disney's films are not that great anymore either. This is what really scares me. I don't think we have much to fear about the parks, because I get the distinct impression the company does not much care for the parks anymore either.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Disney & Marvel... what does it mean for DLR?<< Hopefully nothing for DL, ever! As echoed by so many of you here. I can see a possible fit for DCA and the rumored possible third park next decade, of course .. that all depends on what they had in mind, before this. DL is a brand all of it's own. With a history of it's own. And the mere thought of mixing the two worlds just makes me shudder! So, while the corporate big wigs think of nothing but making the Disney company (that once had it's own brand) into a "COSTCO" of MULTIPLE Brands .... I hope they understand very well ... they can't treat DL like some Misc./Catch All "opportunity" to market their newest additions. It's too much! First their own .... then Lucas' Star Wars then Indy. Then Pixar ... Now Marvel? It's just becoming a Wash of multiple brands .. and I sincerely feel the Marvel brand just tips it in the wrong direction ... whereas the "Magic Kingdom" parks are concerned.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Oh, I got one more thing to say ...... I don't want to hear from any of you ever again saying ... "oh, boo-hoo ... that's too expensive .. this is too expensive" posts about attraction ideas we think the Disney company can't afford ...... BULL !@#$!!*!-YOU KNOW WHAT! Disney ain't some mom & pop operation struggling to put money together for it's poor little park in Anaheim, CA! Don't ever say they can't afford to do needed overhauls on areas of DL .. when they just spent 4 BILLION on Marvel! This whole "they can't afford this or that" is just fooie! rant over.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Are these message boards located in France? Because I see alot of whining going on....
Originally Posted By oc_dean For almost 10 years now ... I've caught too many of you saying ... "Oh, but that's too much money", or "Disney can't afford it" when it comes to anything important for DL. Quit acting like you work in their accounting department and say their cash reserves are so low. BULL!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Problem ios OC-Dean, they probably do not feel that the AP brigade are not worth it. Where are they going to make more money, on putting cool stuff in a park that is saturated by cheap AP holders, or on a brand they can market world wide. It does not mean I agree or like this approach, but from a business perspective it makes more sense. And that is what I do not like. I am worried they will screw up Marvel and maybe even the parks as well. And whether you guys like it or not, DL is not one park anymore, it is a whole resort. I cannot see these guys making it into Main Street (Capt America on the 4th of July, maybe not), Adventureland, Frontierland (though a cameo by Beast in Critter Country could be funny), or Fantasyland, some of these could fit into Tomorrowland. I think it is DCA that would see these characters, IF they come. But really, I don't think this one is any more about the parks than ESPN or Go.Com. I think this is about TV, print channels and access to other markets (though Marvel is really more of an American thing).
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Hm... could Spiderman (the ride) end up in HPB at DCA, then??>> <There is NO WAY that Universal’s Spiderman attraction will be in any Disney park. Universal developed that attraction and owns it completely. They DO pay for the licensing of Spiderman and that fee will now go to Disney. But the attraction itself is totally Universal’s.> I don't think it will happen either, but theoretically?? Disney developed the ride system for Star Tours, but it wasn't long before other parks started having simulator rides. If Disney owns the right to use Spiderman in a ride west of the Mississippi, and can approximate the technology, they theoretically could have something very like IOA's Spiderman ride (perhaps with slightly different ride tech and a different plot just for legal CYA reasons) in DCA or DSP or Shanghai. If they wanted to, I don't think Uni could do much about it. Of course, DCA through 2012 is pretty mapped out, and as good as the IOA ride is, I think Disney will go in a different direction. More likely to see it in a non-US park, if anywhere. I don't expect to see a lot of Marvel in the parks except as merch in the near term. If they come to the parks, the studio parks make the most sense. I think Disney will stick its toe in the water in terms of Marvel at the parks, rather than jump in head first.
Originally Posted By boyumz I hope we never, ever see any Marvel inside Disneyland....even merchandise!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I felt the same way about Pooh once upon a time, and Power Rangers.
