Originally Posted By Manfried I think too many people are feeling "entitled" and scamming the system. The ADA law has allowed people to go way overboard. When I'm old and crippled, only a couple years from now, I just won't go and will throw verbal insults in all those that do. Now the real ones fine, but all those fakers, go home please.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I don't know if I'd call it scamming the system. I agree that in theory everyone, regardless of their handicap should have equal access and as close to an equal experience as those who don't. However, common sense, general safety, liability concerns, and the general impracticality of Segways in heavily congested pedestrian areas have to be considered too.
Originally Posted By mawnck Everybody settle down. >>Disney must show, based on actual risks, why Segways would be unsafe in the park, the panel said. The case now returns to district court.<< <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/disneyland-ordered-to-study-use-of-segways-in-park.html" target="_blank">http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...ark.html</a> All the ruling said is that Disney has to go back to court and show the reasons why they don't want Segways in the park. I'm sure they've got this. If they don't, then maybe it's not such a bad idea. ;-)
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Mark my words, they will ruin it for everyone" Yeah, the place will be overrun by Segways.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Yeah, the place will be overrun by Segways.<< There aren't enough Segways in California to overrun the place.
Originally Posted By Bellella I don't know about this. Traffic on crowded days is treacherous enough without having to worry about Segways ramming up against you. I think they should just stick to the handicapped accommodations they already allow.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "All the ruling said is that Disney has to go back to court and show the reasons why they don't want Segways in the park. I'm sure they've got this." Thanks for providing additional information. As I said at the beginning, there seemed to be some details missing in the first article. I don't think that journalism in America could get any worse than it is today.
Originally Posted By Manfried I wonder how much money the Segway company is giving the lawyers to pursue this case?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I don't think that journalism in America could get any worse than it is today.<< Maybe they should give reporters Segways so they could travel around a bit more to cover stories and get the whole picture for a change.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "There aren't enough Segways in California to overrun the place." I know. People are overreacting: "Segways in a Disney Park would be a DISASTER!"
Originally Posted By mawnck >>People are overreacting<< I think people are joking. There ARE Segways in the park, ridden by employees. IIRC, they used to give demonstrations to guests as well before the Lawyerketeers put a stop to it. And wasn't there some sort of Segway DCA tour a while back?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<IIRC, they used to give demonstrations to guests as well before the Lawyerketeers put a stop to it>> Yes... inside Innoventions at Epcot in an area free of any other traffic. They also used to offer a Segway Tour but it was held in the World Showcase BEFORE that section of the park opened for the day.
Originally Posted By Manfried >>I don't think that journalism in America could get any worse than it is today.<< >>Maybe they should give reporters Segways so they could travel around a bit more to cover stories and get the whole picture for a change.<< There is no more journalism in America, only political spin doctors. Journalists are arrogant snobs.
Originally Posted By LacyBelle <<IIRC, they used to give demonstrations to guests as well before the Lawyerketeers put a stop to it>> Yes, there was also a Segway tour in DCA. It was given before park opening. I believe it was stopped when all the contruction walls went up. It'll be interesting to see if Disney will begin the tours again now that the walls are down. However, with the park's earlier opening hour now, it's doubtful.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I wish they'd allow me to ride my penny-farthing through the park. It kinda clashes with Tomorrowland, but it looks awesome on main Street.
Originally Posted By doombuggy I hope Disney puts their foot down and says NO! enough is enough. Those things need to be balanced which makes them a risk in crowds. Whats to stop some one from saying OK I have to use a gas powered go-kart or I need to use a shopping cart with wobbly wheels for walking?
Originally Posted By mhartman47 As one who uses a push wheelchair in the parks, I find this topic amusing. Honestly, it is challenging enough to get around the parks in a push chair. (I have tried the ECV and never again!!!). Disney just needs to film an average person using a wheel chair during peak times at the park and this would be overturned. I have gotten ran into rails by parents with strollers and then given dirty looks. Ironcially it is the toddler in the stroller who tells me sorry. I also think what are we teaching children when we act like maniacs at Disneyland. Disney can adopted most city parks including zoos have adopted. If you need a segway bring it with you. I can see them not banning them, but renting them would be a huge liability. Wheelchair and ECV rental is sufficent for the general public.
Originally Posted By doombuggy "renting them would be a huge liability" allowing them in the park is too. The risk of them falling on a kid, going too fast and not being able to stop in time. It would only take one time and the park would be sued for allowing them and the person using it should be sued. Great example they are too fast to be allowed in a crowed place. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmLLGYn9Fo8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...LGYn9Fo8</a> now if it's one like this then no prob <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=OS1WUfRfiWI&feature=endscreen" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?N...ndscreen</a> "I have gotten ran into rails by parents with strollers" Sadly there are rude people that do this to every one chair or able to walk.
