Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I actually wish the raceway would go away, but that's another topic.<<< THIS. Hate the raceway... noisy, smelly, ugly, doesn't fit it's land...
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>34 for 32 not that Hans doesn't also have a valid point << Thanks! And Hans does have a valid point. Cosmetics go a long way.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>I also see a small roller coaster and a Casey Jr themed water playground along with a depot for the WDW RR.<< Sure, I thought you were speaking towards what can be seen while riding the future Dumbo rather than it's past view aesthetic in Fantasyland. In my eyes, the future ride will really not offer a view of the items you list above.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<however the appearance and retheming of this area appears to be a big improvement.>> I learned long ago not to trust concept art. I don't expect much of a cosmetic change to the existing area.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Because there will be two Dumbo rides" That's the weirdest thing I've heard all week. Two Dumbo rides? W-E-I-R-D.
Originally Posted By Bolna >>Little kids seem to universally love the Dumbo ride and I don't think its biggest fans care if the view is of the castle or of circus tents.<< I am another one who thinks that it is a downgrade to Dumbo because it does take away the wonderful Fantasyland view. And while a lot of little ones might not notice, I think it still adds something for them as well. Shouldn't kinds be exposed to good design? That is how they learn how to appreciate it fully once they are grow up.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Well at least it looks like WDW will finally get fountains underneath their Dumbos. By the way, have you guys seen TDL's Dumbo attraction? <a href="http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv86/csbcsun/105.jpg" target="_blank">http://i672.photobucket.com/al.../105.jpg</a> It looks like DL circa 1955.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>It looks like DL circa 1955<< I'm sure it really puts-off the guests who walk by it on their way to Hunny Hunt.
Originally Posted By Bolna Well, the price for most beautiful Dumbo would go to DLP: <a href="http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/disneyland_park/fantasyland/dumbo_the_flying_elephant.php" target="_blank">http://www.photosmagiques.com/...hant.php</a># I would not want to miss it from Fantasyland there.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "With HM in the background!" TDL has probably the most illogical and bizarre placement of the HM at any Disney park. At the very least they could have redesigned the exterior so that it fit in with the whimsical Fantasyland surroundings. With everything considered that park has the ugliest Fantasyland in my opinion. "Well, the price for most beautiful Dumbo would go to DLP" Yep, and looking at those images of the beautiful Fantasyland in France with its extravagant design and lush landscaping you kind of get an idea of what WDI might be trying to achieve in Florida. Nope, the New Fantasyland won't have much in the way of eye-popping technological breakthroughs, but at least the land will finally have a more immersive atmosphere and theming that people expect from Disney.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<Yep, and looking at those images of the beautiful Fantasyland in France with its extravagant design and lush landscaping you kind of get an idea of what WDI might be trying to achieve in Florida. Nope, the New Fantasyland won't have much in the way of eye-popping technological breakthroughs, but at least the land will finally have a more immersive atmosphere and theming that people expect from Disney.>> Agreed. It will be a much needed improvement design-wise, at least in the area behind the castle. I am not yet convinced about the circus land, but will keep an open mind about it and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I'm a bit jealous that WDW is getting the fountains under Dumbo. That use to be one of us DL people's bragging rights.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Not only that they get TWO Dumbos! That means that WDW has five rides that are basically the same thing.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I still can't get over they are adding a second Dumbo. So strange.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Not only that they get TWO Dumbos! That means that WDW has five rides that are basically the same thing.>> And 4 of them will be in the same park. Horrible.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<Not only that they get TWO Dumbos! That means that WDW has five rides that are basically the same thing.>> Well, you can't really count those two dumbos as two different rides. They are one ride like all the simulators at Star Tours: Most people would not even count the two different levels at Mission: Space as two rides (even though those really vary from each other) or the two sides of Space Mountain as two coasters (even though they are technically). And the Astro Orbiter is actually a great ride in my opinion. The views are spectacular!
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Well, you can't really count those two dumbos as two different rides. They are one ride like all the simulators at Star Tours: Most people would not even count the two different levels at Mission: Space as two rides (even though those really vary from each other) or the two sides of Space Mountain as two coasters (even though they are technically).<< Sorry Bolna. Not even close. The good natured ribbing from the DL regulars is well deserved. As I mentioned earlier, I agree that it is indeed Weird and Strange that there will be two dumbos. It's over the top and places function well beyond form. Unlike your examples that don't really impact the visual experience of the guest while riding. Having two Dumbos out in the open is different. I would agree with folks counting them as (2) of the (5) At least some coasters that have two 'sides' will offer different experiences, Matterhorn, Dueling Dragons, various wooden coasters >>And the Astro Orbiter is actually a great ride in my opinion. The views are spectacular!<< Good point. While you guys out West want to razz us on WDW's latest screwball addition, at least the park still offers the jets in their proper place.
