Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Just as bad. I don't think this will change much for WDW, but poor Paris and DL... yeah... that's a problemo.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Why? How much differently do you think she'll run things than Weiss did?
Originally Posted By Manfried "Obviously, Al was very mistaken. And with a firm 'belief' that one of his top sources is VERY close to George. I firmly believe that the execs on that level were all left in the dark. This was a misdirection." Not the first time one of Al's sources have leaked information to him only to have it be wrong information. Will Al actually admit this? Doubt it. As to the rest of the rumors and stuff flying around, let's wait and see actual actions.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Why? How much differently do you think she'll run things than Weiss did?>> She was a Pressler puppet, from what I understand. I don't expect good things from her.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Why? How much differently do you think she'll run things than Weiss did?<<< I think it'll be more of the same. Nothing changes for us, everything (mostly) for them.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer Great theory, EE. But it won't take announced projects not happening for fans to think she sucks. Fans have been hissing and booing her for a few years and instead of dumping her when they had the chance, they promote her. <<Good for Dusty! I generally don't like MiceChat, but that's a great sign, post and movement to get behind.>> I completely agree. Disneylanders also seem to have some pull when it comes to these things, especially with Lutz. Probably because of the APs. It's not fishy. Tom blew it, and we will get more of the same in WDW, and more from WDW in DL and DLP.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I do agree with an earlier post, follow the money!<<< Yupp. That too. What's being spent, what isn't, who's getting paid more. Does Meggy get a raise, now?
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer Oops. Take that last paragraph and stick it before the quote and that post will make more sense.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Great theory, EE. But it won't take announced projects not happening for fans to think she sucks. Fans have been hissing and booing her for a few years and instead of dumping her when they had the chance, they promote her. <<< Thanks! But as said before... If suddenly there was a wave of new things planned for the parks, and a few of the things got done... don't you think that public opinion would shift and pin the blame (good blame) on who's in charge? I think so. It makes sense if you don't think about it too much. New person in, new projects announced, new person is great!!! We must have been wrong!!! Let's go buy some Duffies and Vinyl!!! Tom blew it in OUR eyes. But in the eyes of people looking for some goodwill, this is a very easy way to change how the public looks at you. >>>>I completely agree. Disneylanders also seem to have some pull when it comes to these things, especially with Lutz. Probably because of the APs. It's not fishy. Tom blew it, and we will get more of the same in WDW, and more from WDW in DL and DLP.<<<<< Yup. They'll run her out of the place. And that can always be good for us. Machiavellian Mickey Movement of Management.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer <<If suddenly there was a wave of new things planned for the parks, and a few of the things got done... don't you think that public opinion would shift and pin the blame (good blame) on who's in charge? I think so. It makes sense if you don't think about it too much. New person in, new projects announced, new person is great!!! We must have been wrong!!! Let's go buy some Duffies and Vinyl!!! >> Ok, I see. And I'd believe it. I hope that's not the idea. It's stop-gap corporate politics. So say those spectacular new things are announced and everyone is all "WE LOVE MEGGY!" and "Disney I love you!" That's great for a few months. But a few months later? No progress? A year later? Nothing? So, sure the (growing) anger may stop now, a few years from now the anger and bad press they are trying to stop will come back. But worse. It could happen. But it would be terrible.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>Ok, I see. And I'd believe it. I hope that's not the idea. It's stop-gap corporate politics. So say those spectacular new things are announced and everyone is all "WE LOVE MEGGY!" and "Disney I love you!" That's great for a few months. But a few months later? No progress? A year later? Nothing? So, sure the (growing) anger may stop now, a few years from now the anger and bad press they are trying to stop will come back. But worse. It could happen. But it would be terrible.<<<<< OF COURSE it's stop gap politics. That's how WDW works. All about the fiscal year, all about how they can do in the here and now. There are no long term plans. And, of course, it's by that time that you mentioned, that there is a possibility that the parks are sold and Meggy and Tommy (OK, enough of that.., ick) don't have to worry about that. And of course, there's also the fact that SOME things will be built, like JII 4 or a sparkly new land for DAK, and the fans will be placated with that.
Originally Posted By ReelJustice <<And of course, there's also the fact that SOME things will be built, like JII 4 or a sparkly new land for DAK, and the fans will be placated with that. >> :eyebrowraised:
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Promote the fan base’s least favorite executives, announce tons of things at D23, fanboys will assume its the new leaders doing. If these plans don't get build, regardless, there will be SOME positive feedback from Wall Street and the community. And if the parks get sold... Things were still announced; these execs had the limelight and the "right intensions". << Why would Wall Street or a potential buyer care what the fans think of Meg Crofton? They're looking at the parks strictly from a dollars and cents angle. Fanboy enthusiasm doesn't enter into the equation.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Why would Wall Street or a potential buyer care what the fans think of Meg Crofton? They're looking at the parks strictly from a dollars and cents angle. Fanboy enthusiasm doesn't enter into the equation.<<< Well, with goodwill comes more fans and more fans is more profit.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 The woman in charge of laying waste to P.I., killing Mono pilots, and in charcge of bus crashes is going to have George K bow down to the Queen Mother?!?!? I soooo wanna see her try and mess w/ DL after the scars of '96-'03 are still in thier minds. Now i REALLY want the parks sold if SHE is in charge! This is like having the TeaParty in charge of Congress.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Well, with goodwill comes more fans and more fans is more profit. << Maybe in theory. But EE, have you seen the Disney fanboys lately? They're sticking with the company/parks through thick and thin (and Meg Crofton's rule as well). I would guess that potential buyers would be most interested in what P&R has to offer today -- not in the future, not predicting how the fanboys will hold up. (Answer: they're psychologically dependent! Of course they're sticking with the company!)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Maybe in theory. But EE, have you seen the Disney fanboys lately? They're sticking with the company/parks through thick and thin (and Meg Crofton's rule as well). I would guess that potential buyers would be most interested in what P&R has to offer today -- not in the future, not predicting how the fanboys will hold up. (Answer: they're psychologically dependent! Of course they're sticking with the company!<<<< Oh, of course they are psychologically dependent! And this is just the sort of thing that would ruin that. If someone or something you really like promises you something huge, and you don't get it, what do you think is going to happen? I can't see people blatantly defending a blunder such as this.
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