Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>They've done a good job with keeping hotel rooms fresh. Never had a bad room, nor seen a bad room in my Disney resort travels. Worst I had was a small patch of carpet wear at Saratoga Springs. Wasn't pleased, but it was under a chair and in a high traffic area of the room.<<< All to be expected. As is building upkeep. As is ride upkeep. As is entertainment renewal. I'm sorry, but these aren't things that these things should be anything but stellar.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer ^I'd like a room pretty much near perfect for the amount I pay, actually. Almost always do get one. I don't want room with scratches, dents and dirt. I don't want outdated fixtures either.
Originally Posted By dshyates In 2005 I stayed at the Poly and for >$600/night I got lumpy Piss stained mattresses, peeling mildew stained wallpaper, and thread bare towels you could see through. That was the last time I stay on property. In 2007 I stayed at The Ritz-Carlton for $229/night and it was a VASTLY superior vacation experience. In 2009 I stayed at The Portofino Bay Resort at Universal for $189/night and the service there blew away any thought of ever staying on Disney property again. There is a reason The Grand Floridian is only a 3 star.
Originally Posted By ChiMike My first stay at the Portofino was 2001. I have stayed there or the Royal Pacific many many times since. There has been no drop in quality for those 10 years. Very remarkable. I use to stay at the Polynesian at least once a year if not more. 2005 was my last time too Dshyates. Not shortly thereafter I stopped including WDW as a destination all together. If I do poke my head in to check something out, it will be arriving from the Portofino.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer It is really sad that Boardwalk has better nighttime entertainment than Downtown Disney.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Any update to this rumor?>> Nothing that I care to share yet. But I do know the BoD wasn't at WDW for any sort of normal function. As I've said before, this isn't something we're likely to hear about formally until it happens, which of course the ignorant fanbois and podcasters and bloggers will take as a sign there is nothing to it. That's just not how these things go. So ... we move back to issues like monorails falling apart or that idea that Satan proposed ... FP ... anyone want to talk about refillable mugs?
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>or that idea that Satan proposed ... FP ... anyone want to talk about refillable mugs?<< Maybe it was Satan who told you that you were purchasing a lifetime mug? Ever think of that?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Gonna be real cute when all of the hotels they've built in the past 15 years require extensive renovations.... --- remember the DVC units do this regularly because they collect maintenance fees from owners for exactly that reason... one can aruge is it enough to cover- but it is a good % nevertheless. Now the ALlstars- Pop etc.. another story
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ But VBDad that is exactly what a portion of the room rates should also be going towards. Some of the rooms at the Boardwalk, Yacht/Beach Club, and Coronado are downright dingy.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 one would hope so ChiMike - but when they keep being discounted deeply, some part of the $$ is not being collected. Regardless of what rooms are discounted to- DVC members pay the same maintenance fees. I was just doing a pre emptive before the usual DVC shots came out
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>I was just doing a pre emptive before the usual DVC shots came out<< You mean like the Boardwalk Villa Studio that had a puke/blood stain next to the bed on the carpet??? WELCOME HOME!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 seriously- WDW section is starting to make world events look positive.. but hey..whatever
Originally Posted By vbdad55 impossible -(better chance of W becpoming a hero in W/E) - so I'll just continue to chime in where I feel a need. It's fine..it's en vogue right now and everyone is entitled to their opinions. Positive or negative they affect my opinions of WDW and Disney in general only so much..no different than movie critic reviews as most are opinions. When they are 100% factual ( and few things anywhere ever are)- then I process a more serious reflection. Meanwhile with stock @ $40/share and suddenly on many people's buy lists..and my family having had a great time last trip ( albeit a short one) - I'll use those as starting points to color my opinions. e.g. decision to stop monorails during EMH when ferry does not run-- bad decision or poorly thought out, or both. Easy call as is is an objective series of events. e.g. value/quality of HM queue - totally subjective
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ Maybe the issue right now is that it is a perfect storm of them making more wrong decisions than right. Maybe a critical mass is developing where all the older knick-knack decisions that you or others thought were marginal or insignificant at the time, are all now coming back to hurt things and catching up with Disney? I don't know, but I believe the tone is always a sign of the times. When things are announced or there is a D23 expo, it seems to me that sentiment is positive. In times where the wrong people are promoted, loss leaders are breaking down (Splash/Monorail), time is marching on without additions in many areas of the resort, prices rising, well, maybe it explains the negative tone. I think everyone is happy you had a good trip. It should be good. Real issues in our real lives should add a counter weight to what we make of any vacation time. That is different then seeking out an internet discussion where folks are speaking towards something so specific as these parks, where everything will be examined. I might have a good trip to DL, but that doesn't mean that it is now the trump card on how trips to DL are. I was having GREAT trips to DL in 2002 when everyone was carrying on about DL like they do in 2011 about WDW. That didn't cause me to think the majority was just out to lunch, and I was magically the baseline. Peoples positive or negative reviews aren't absolute they are simply part of a trend in the expectations of Disney and Disney's standards. When there are more negative attitudes it should speak towards a trend that Disney is disappointing more than in the past. If it is positive such as DL lately, then it should reflect a trend that Disney is working harder than in the past.
