Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Even if he goes bye bye what does anyone expect in terms of a replacement? There is no one on the board who is going to say..."I know, we need a real creative person as CEO." Just not going to happen. Plus I am not sure there is anyone out there who fits that bill.<<< This is why I am very apprehensive, curious, and interested in what Staggs has to do with this.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""it's pretty well established that he's on his way out."" Yup he'll be in his 60s by the time Fantasyland '12 and Shanghai get going.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 And Gold and Roy did not approve of Iger as succesor either, because he was to close to Eisner. They made up with him because they had to show some good faith after all that drama
Originally Posted By HMButler79 When (Lloyd) braun arrived at the restaurant, he held out his hand, but Iger refused to shake it. "I hope your up for this, I ger said, "because i'm going to let you have it."......Iger continued, " This is the most dysfuntioncal relationship i've ever had. You don't respect me. You don't like me. It's unacceptable." "Really?" Braun said. "Well, maybe you need to know why. Do you want to know?" "Yeah" Iger said Braun pulled out some notes ..."LACK OF CHARACTER; INCOMPETENCE; TAKING CREDIT FOR THINGS YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH; RUNNING AWAY FROM DECISIIONS YOU'VE MADE. "What about 'Bachelor'? "You did (doo doo) on 'Bachelor'! You didn't even know about it till we were half done shooting it!" ANd THAT Boys and Girls is who are CEO is.....................
Originally Posted By dagobert Isn't the quote above from James Stewart's book "Disney War"? That book is really interesting.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Ohh see I thought that story had to do with the time bob worked with lloyd selling computers out of a garage in queens. You know bob, quite a techie
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Yup he'll be in his 60s by the time Fantasyland '12 and Shanghai get going. <<< You think it has to do with age?
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""Isn't the quote above from James Stewart's book "Disney War"? That book is really interesting."" YES
Originally Posted By Archimedes Report >>Even so, it's pretty well established that he's on his way out.<< Pretty well established? I can only imagine you hope that by repeating it over and over it'll eventually come true. Do we fans really have such short memories that we're pining for the days of Eisner? Yikes. The last ten years of Eisner's reign were disastrous and, I'd argue, more damaging to TWDC than anything Iger's done.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Pretty well established? I can only imagine you hope that by repeating it over and over it'll eventually come true. Do we fans really have such short memories that we're pining for the days of Eisner? Yikes. The last ten years of Eisner's reign were disastrous and, I'd argue, more damaging to TWDC than anything Iger's done<<< And there are tons of other people saying it. Not saying that makes it true, but it seems to be a consensus. Show me where it says that he's staying for longer, if anything. And of course Eisner was failing as he left, but this...? What we have now? It feels like NOTHING is going on, save for more of the same. Iger hasn't really shown us anything new.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Do we fans really have such short memories that we're pining for the days of Eisner? Yikes. The last ten years of Eisner's reign were disastrous and, I'd argue, more damaging to TWDC than anything Iger's done. << I agree Archimedes, from 1998 on it was a certifiable disaster. I do not pine for Eisner. He was at the right spot, at the right time, with the right opportunities, and the right people around him. He gets credit for executing and initially finding the right people, but that's about it.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Ohh see I thought that story had to do with the time bob worked with lloyd selling computers out of a garage in queens. You know bob, quite a techie<< Seriously guys? No one? I guess there is not a big cross-section of Disney/Seinfeld fans. And yes that Lloyd Braun was based on the Disney War Lloyd Braun.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I guess there is not a big cross-section of Disney/Seinfeld fans. And yes that Lloyd Braun was based on the Disney War Lloyd Braun.<<< I love Seinfeld, and knew the name was from there, but didn't realize it was so connected! That's interesting.
Originally Posted By leobloom Is the reference to Kramer's friend Bob Sacamano? Loved Seinfeld when it was on NBC. To keep this on topic, maybe the fifth gate that rumor has it will be built in 2013 and then sold off to Time/Warner in 2015 could be based on old television shows that are in syndication on TBS?
Originally Posted By ChiMike hehehe .. Great idea! Then Disney can buy Warner. To your first question. No. Believe it or not..... The character was named Llyod Braun. Pretty funny for those that got it, considering the real Llyod Braun was pretty well known. I was referencing one of the episodes he appears in where he is competing against George
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I'm just going by my memory, but I would think he has 10 years. So... 2006-2016?>> Try Sept 2015. Iger took over daily operations from ME around March 2005, then was crowned Chief Cheese at the beginning of FY2006. This is why the Pixar deal was announced in Jan 2006. Iger and his legal team had been working with the Pixar principles in the latter part of 2005 to get the deal done. If Iger's stepping down at the end of his current contract, it will happen in a little over four years. And I won't be surprised if he does step down, for it seemed as though his main goal was to grab as much compensation as possible by pushing profits through the pseudo-growth illusion of cost cutting and IP acquisition. I never got a strong sense that Iger was interested in the gig for the long haul, as ME clearly was. It also wouldn't surprise me to see P&R sold off before Iger bails for Retirement Land. As others have pointed out in this thread, the Rotunda Bldg simply doesn't have any genuine interest in the parks. Say what you want about ME, but he did care, on a personal level. He simply didn't want to invest the capital as a businessman.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Say what you want about ME, but he did care, on a personal level. He simply didn't want to invest the capital as a businessman.>> Yup. That's why I'd still love to have Eisner over Iger. Iger cares NOTHING about the legacy of the company at all.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Just to add about my last point, yea, Esiner sucked hard at the end of his tenure. But with the right people around him he would have been fine. Iger seems to have good people around him, and is doing NOTHING with them
Originally Posted By Manfried The problem from a business standpoint is how much to spend on the theme parks. Particularly those that are pretty much maxed out. You can't spend $200 million every other year on a theme park when it doesn't add to attendance and revenues. So, it becomes a balancing act of doing enough new stuff to keep the cash registers ringing, and keeping the costs low enough to keep the profits there. The MK at WDW has been maxed out for years. The new expansion will give them a slight bump and help the park along. Other parks, however, could use some capital investment. EPCOT Center could get a huge attendance bump and return some significant change if Disney would put a team together to focus on it.
