Originally Posted By Kidz-n-k9s <<Has Disney officially retired the phrase "The happiest place on Earth"? >> My medal from the 1/2 Marathon weekend says "Happiest Race on Earth". So it is alive in some form or fashion.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "What? How do you equate people on blankets with AP people???" Well I can't confirm that they are APs, but they sure as heck aren't likely to be infrequent visitors who fly or drive to Southern California for vacation. I certainly don't pack my bedclothes or picnic gear when I go anywhere like that for an extended stay.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Seems to me those are people who do NOT go to the parks much and will actually sit and wait for the show. If I went as many times as people here are saying (APers who go 4-5 times a week), I wouldn't be bringing any blankets so I could see a show I've seen many, many, many times before.> I think it's the opposite. Not only can you read anecdotal evidence here of AP's who talk about getting their spot for the show and waiting (and/or see the AP's around their necks), but it just makes sense to me. Non-locals like me have a very finite amount of hours in the parks. I'm only there every 2-3 YEARS, and so I'm not going to devote 3 hours to ANY one thing, no matter how good the show. Local AP's, on the other hand, know that if it takes 3 hours to get a good spot and see the show, no big deal... they can come back and ride Space and Splash any time they want. I can't. They can come after work, hang out and get a snack, then stake out their place, watch the show, maybe do one ride on the way out... and that's enough for them on that one night; that's all they expected to do and that's what they did. They've got plenty of other nights and days. I don't, so I'm not camping out for hours.
Originally Posted By CoolDisneyFan I am confused, what is an AP? I mean I realize its annual passholder, but i thought that was only open to residents, at least in FLorida. I don't know about CA.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Anyone can have an AP. Living in the UK, one year we had a DLP, DL and WDW AP, living in none of those countries.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo There are local aps, that are even cheaper, but they also have lots of blackout dates too.
Originally Posted By disneylandfan8 And, heaven forbid, you become an APer and are looked at with disdain.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Oh brother. Again, it's not the individual pass holders that are the problem, it's Disney's management of the program. The place wasn't planned to operate like a public park where people can just drop in whenever they want.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Most speculation about who does what at Disneyland is based on intuition. That's the only way." So the answer is, no data at all. Just someone's "intuition" (who knew that "intuition" means "wild guess"?). Shoot, that's not even reaching the very low bar of anecdotal evidence. My intuition says that it's a very tiny minority of APs and a tiny minority of a day's crowd at the parks that visit this way.
Originally Posted By doombuggy "heaven forbid, you become an APer and are looked at with disdain." If you got it on display like some kind of badge of honor then yes. WHY the need to show it off? OHHHHH your part of an exclusive club that any body with money can get.
Originally Posted By disneylandfan8 Personally, I keep it in my wallet as I do not want to lose it. Having it "displayed" means nothing to me. I don't flaunt it. I think some people keep their pass, whether annual or not, on a lanyard for easy access, and not to be labeled or judged. Could it be that simple?
Originally Posted By doombuggy "on a lanyard for easy access" LOL for what? A discount? they still have to open their wallet/purse to pay. No one keeps credit cards around the neck. I keep my ticket or AP when I've got them in my wallet as well. It is just to show off plane and simple. any who....this has gone way off topic
Originally Posted By TheParsec I keep my pass on my lanyard. It's easier for me to get it out for fastpasses, re-entry, or buying things. I don't like getting my wallet out of my pocket all the time. My DW wears it also because sometimes she doesn't bring her purse. We don't do it because we want to show it off. We aren't rich. Yes, before we started pin trading, I used to keep it in my wallet. But the lanyard is so much easier.
Originally Posted By TheParsec And I can't think of any Disney phrases I want to be retired. When I'm at Disneyland, I'm in a whole different universe. I leave my stress and worries at home.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I don't go ANYWHERE without my American Express Gold Card displayed around my neck!! Just Kidding... LOL
Originally Posted By crapshoot One phrase I would love to see retired would be: "That will be $15.00 for parking today." Just sayin'.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>One phrase I would love to see retired would be: "That will be $15.00 for parking today."<< Oh I bet that gets retired before you know it, replaced by "That will be $17.00 for parking today."
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "I keep my pass on my lanyard. It's easier for me to get it out for fastpasses, re-entry, or buying things." I don't wear a lanyard, but I do take my pass out of my wallet and keep it in my front pocket for these reasons. If I was a pin trader and wore a lanyard, I'd probably keep it there. "I don't go ANYWHERE without my American Express Gold Card displayed around my neck!! Just Kidding... LOL" Gold? I'd be ashamed to wear that around my neck. My Amex black card on the other hand...
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "I think it's the opposite. Not only can you read anecdotal evidence here of AP's who talk about getting their spot for the show and waiting (and/or see the AP's around their necks), but it just makes sense to me. Non-locals like me have a very finite amount of hours in the parks. I'm only there every 2-3 YEARS, and so I'm not going to devote 3 hours to ANY one thing, no matter how good the show. Local AP's, on the other hand, know that if it takes 3 hours to get a good spot and see the show, no big deal... they can come back and ride Space and Splash any time they want. I can't. They can come after work, hang out and get a snack, then stake out their place, watch the show, maybe do one ride on the way out... and that's enough for them on that one night; that's all they expected to do and that's what they did. They've got plenty of other nights and days. I don't, so I'm not camping out for hours." That's why I've never seen Fantasmic or got a decent seat for the fireworks. I don't go very often, and I'm not going to sit there and wait for even one hour to get a good seat. I'll either someday shell out the bucks to get reserved seating or happen upon a good spot. But I don't fault the APers for doing it. Hell, I'd probably do it if I lived close enough to do so. But I think it's ridiculous that Disney allows you to put blankets on the ground. Standing there is one thing, but blankets on the ground hours before hand? Are they nuts? Which is I think the exact point you're trying to make, Hans.
