Originally Posted By FerretAfros Dalmatians!!! >>Need to remember that this Avatar deal was a corporate executive decision and probably had little input form WDI.<< Which is why this whole development seems so off-putting. We can tell that it was a corporate decision to put Avatar in the parks, not one that creatively or thematically makes much sense. It just doesn't feel 'right'. Maybe if WDI (the people ultimately responsible for how their product turns out) had more say in what was built, we'd get a better end product. As it is, it just seems like a very corporate move.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt ^^^That's absolutely true, but name one recent theme park development that Disney announced that didn't feel this way.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I got to thinking, dangerous I know. But the original concept for Beastly Kingdom was going to be about mythical creatures liked dragons and unicorns that were told in various stories. Avatar featured creatures that were in a mythical land. So how it different? And if the answer happens to be but it's not from a Disney movie or it's not an original concept more Disney properties throughout the years started from an outside concept rather than in house.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I got to thinking, dangerous I know. But the original concept for Beastly Kingdom was going to be about mythical creatures liked dragons and unicorns that were told in various stories. Avatar featured creatures that were in a mythical land. So how it different?>> It's not different, aside form being incredibly less interesting.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "but name one recent theme park development that Disney announced that didn't feel this way" What? Hans - that's very anti-DOM of you. Normally you're the company booster whenever the conversation turns a little bit anti-WDC. Whoda thought you could actually make sense like the rest of us?!? ; )
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Avatar featured creatures that were in a mythical land. So how it different? << Presumably BK would've dealt with mythical creatures that are centuries old and that span different cultures. The creatures of Avatar are two years old and were created for a movie. That's one difference. I'm not even sure you should call Avatar's creatures "mythical". Fictitious, yes. But I think of mythical as something that has its origins in a distant, earlier time.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "The creatures of Avatar are two years old and were created for a movie." And they were kinda lame at that. You could see the design philosophy went something like, "Well, a normal tiger has four legs so lets draw a six legged one......and make it purple.......and day glo." In fact, EVERYTHING on "Pandora" was designed EXACTLY like THAT. Different shades of purple and blue. Now picture a giant shed painted day glo/dark light(whatever)purple and blue. With digitally projected floating mountains on the back wall. And lots of Enya music. And bored Orlando teens hopping around in giant blue cat smurf suits wearing those springy leg things. Exciting, aint it?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Actually bob, it is more exciting to me than anything WDW has put in or plans to put in since expedition Everest. It is no secret that I hate Disney synergy. While I would prefer something original, this is still much better than a Pixie hollow addition they could have opted for. I could poke holes in many things including my beloved Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. But if done right this could be very cool.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I think the key, Dave, is the term, "if done right". It's just that so many of us are now jaded all but beyond repair when it comes to Disney's efforts with theme parks. Even if they DO do an EE type effort, who's to say within two years the giant purple AA dragon thing at the end of the attraction doesn't malfunction and they put it into "Disco Giant Purple Dragon Thing" mode? It aint like it isn't precedented.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Or maybe I was right the first time. Too many double negatives. Which, if you have seen the brilliant movie "Clue", you will know leads to "proof POSITIVE!"
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Damn it's quiet in here when all yu Upworlders are asleep. Maybe it's time I did my old "streak naked through the forums while the Yanks and other Northern Hemispherians are slumberin'"? Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Dude, put it away Agreed that it is right to be cautious about Disney's implementation. Though to be fair, dca and hkdl's expansions show they can still do some things right.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I think if i had to choose between Carsland and Avatar, i would pick Carsland. For some reason the thought of Avatarland is just underwhelming. "Maybe it's time I did my old "streak naked through the forums while the Yanks and other Northern Hemispherians are slumberin'"? Im one of the few Northern Hemisherians that are up at all hours.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "While I would prefer something original, this is still much better than a Pixie hollow addition they could have opted for." Geez, you can say that again! "I think the key, Dave, is the term, "if done right"." Disney has already hired one of Hollywood's top film directors, and they've locked in the single biggest money making film of all time. They certainly are planning to throw a lot of money at this project, and Cameron doesn't exactly have a reputation for doing things half way. Finally, there's that WWoHP thingy up the street that has raised expectations and will likely drive Disney to outdo itself. Really they have no other choice. So, in short, they'd have to work hard to F this up. On a side note, as the construction details emerge from Cars Land and Buena Vista Street, it isn't a stretch to anticipate something equally well done for whatever Disney conjures up for Avatar-land.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Though to be fair, dca and hkdl's expansions show they can still do some things right." I keep forgetting about the HKDL expansion Dave. Grizzly Gulch and Mystic Point look to be very well done.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Why? It is pretty much a copy of EE without the Yeti.<<< Isn't it more a mixture of BTM and GRR?
