Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Why give credit for things looking like they should, EE? You aren't FOX. You don't need to balance the fact that Splash AND CoP (assuming you chickened out and didn't do BTMRR!) looked awful by pointing out other attractions looked good. EVERYTHING should be working for the cost of a day at WDW. It is at TDL, even after a natural disaster of incredible magnitude.<<< Of course I don't have to. But if they do look up to par, I will commend them for that. It's the same scenario if you went to TDL and were impressed with THIER upkeep. It should ALWAYS be looking fine. And when it is, it's a good thing, and worth commenting on. BTMR looked OK, though. Same effects are broken, of course.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Shaking my head. For the first time in my life I'm going to say it... Walt Disney is rolling in his grave, and I'm not joking.<<< Oh, yeah. It was very disconcerting to see. >>>Well we could always call 911 for emergency medical care for father & son. It sounds like the old run down Carny days were the rides really were dangerous...Does management actually "Manage" or do they just flip ON switch and go offsite for a meal(as in the "monorail meal special" that cost WDW an undisclosed amount of money)<<<< I strongly suspect that the error with Father and Son just happened when we got stuck. The ride went dark, so perhaps those two AA's didn't come on fully? Still... someone should have noticed. Eager to hear if the problem will be fixed in the coming days. If it is, I can't blame them too much... ...but the CoP does need a huge, forward thinking, refurb, that brings the spirit of Tomorrowland back into the attraction.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Tasha, in case you haven't noticed, it's the same 5-7 posters complaining in every thread... Granted, there are a few things needing a little Pixie Dust but, WDW is a beautiful place! GO!<<< Seconded. Nothing is perfect, but Disney is still a fantastic destination, and well worth it if you haven't seen it before.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""Does management actually "Manage" or do they just flip ON switch and go offsite for a meal"" Pretty much. They only come out of thier lairs to get CMs in trouble and make sure we're hitting our numbers (at least in MK)
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Does management actually "Manage" or do they just flip ON switch and go offsite for a meal>> In the MK, that's basically what we have. There are some really good ones, but too few to make a difference.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I used to adore much of WDW, our last trip, my heart was broken and it was one of the worst vacations we had (thankfully our amazing LP friends made it much, much better, if not for them, it would have been very annoying indeed). I think if someone has only ever been to WDW, they will have a blast. Also, I think if things are new to you (epcot, Dak etc.), still a blast. But for me, I am more compelled to want to take my family to IOA, Seaworld, the new Legoland and Kennedy Space Centre now. As a Disney fan though, I think you should try it at least once. You will hopefully have a better time than I did.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo FWIW, if it was brought up to the standards of at least DLP, but better yet, DL or TDL, then I would be back in a heart beat.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "Tasha, in case you haven't noticed, it's the same 5-7 posters complaining in every thread... Granted, there are a few things needing a little Pixie Dust but, WDW is a beautiful place! GO!" LOL, i will still go. "I'd make time for UNI and Cape Canaveral etc too!) " I wouldnt dream of missing UNI.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo AFWIW, I think it is nuts to think people will spend $10,000's and fly 3000 miles just to poke holes, far from it, I was really excited for the trip. In the end, it left me bitter and jaded about WDW. I have heard very mixed since.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "AFWIW, I think it is nuts to think people will spend $10,000's and fly 3000 miles just to poke holes, far from it, I was really excited for the trip. In the end, it left me bitter and jaded about WDW. I have heard very mixed since. " I dont believe you would spend that kind of money just to complain either Dave.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Thanks, I was starting to think I was crazier than I already thought! Lol. People have accused me before.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "Thanks, I was starting to think I was crazier than I already thought! Lol." Your not that crazy lol. It would be really hard to swallow paying thousands of dollars and having a lousy trip.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<I don't get why people go so easy on WDW when they pay so much to be there. Are the sheep so accepting of anything these days (will steer away from the nation and world!)?>> Well, a lot of people might not notice. If you never have it seen in a better condition, or your last experience was 4 years ago, how will you know what it is supposed to look like. Even I am really bad at noticing broken effects. However, I read the Kevin Yee report and now this one and it seems that Splash is now in a state that will even be noticeable to me. I think a lot of people won't get off the ride and say this and that wasn't working but they will have an undefined feeling that something wasn't really right. But since it isn't a big matter, they just shrug it off. <<When Feb 1st came and that ride reopened it should have been perfect. >> Agreed - how can they close it for such a long time and not use the time for those needed repairs? It seems like they spent the whole budget on the lap bars. <<^^Oops, that should read TOKYO not Paris ... although I've never seen an attraction with so many things not working at DLP either.>> As much as I love DLP, at least WDW does not have the effects falling down on guests...
Originally Posted By Bolna <<also of note... COP. This was in even worse condition. Got stuck TWICE on it, and in the finale scene. both father and son had horrible hydo issues and were slumped over and only half moving. Horrid. Don't understand how they can have a show running when there is a VISIBLE issue like this. >> What are they thinking??? <<Rest of the MK looked pretty good, though, I'll give them that. CBJ, Pirates, and HM especially.>> While that sounds good, it makes the whole thing even more sad: it just shows that they are able to keep up show quality, but they can't be bothered to do so everywhere.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<I have never been to WDW, but am planning on going next year. Reading reports like this really makes me second guess myself.>> Oh, WDW is still worth a trip! I even keep returning there regularly because I truly enjoy it. And there is so much more than just the MK!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>What are they thinking???<<<< They ain't. >>>While that sounds good, it makes the whole thing even more sad: it just shows that they are able to keep up show quality, but they can't be bothered to do so everywhere.<<< That, or they just don't know. I am pretty sure they didn't know about COP... because I honestly don't think they would have run the show with TWO MAIN AAs slumped over.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>I think a lot of people won't get off the ride and say this and that wasn't working but they will have an undefined feeling that something wasn't really right. But since it isn't a big matter, they just shrug it off.<< I think this is very true. Just because a guest cannot articulate what they feel upon seeing a partially operating show, doesn't mean that it does not play into their experience.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Agreed. And you could tell this crowd noticed. CoP was packed and that nervous titter that sounded when we rotated into view of the two AAs was very telling.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<I think this is very true. Just because a guest cannot articulate what they feel upon seeing a partially operating show, doesn't mean that it does not play into their experience.>> To a certain degree Disney manages to diminish the negative effect this would have on the overall experience by having an audience which to a large degree wants to have the vacation of their life and which comes with the expectation that Disney is a first rate experience. They don't want to be disappointed, so they don't allow themselves to be disappointed. But how far can they go? <<^ Agreed. And you could tell this crowd noticed. CoP was packed and that nervous titter that sounded when we rotated into view of the two AAs was very telling.>> Well, two slumped non-functioning AAs is very hard not to notice. Even for someone who is as bad as noticing things like that as me...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ That's what my Mom did. And the second the Son started talking, and we notice that he's rolled over... yeah... painful.
