Originally Posted By Wendy Pleakley I agree that there's no indication whatsoever that Disney is "concerned" about the number of passholders.
Originally Posted By Moedad I'm a PAPer, he's a PAPer, she's a PAPer, they're a PAPer, wouldn't you like to be a PAPer too?
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Am I the only Prem in the party?>> Nope. Saturdays are the only way to go these days. Only us Premiums and full-paying tourists. Much more sane.
Originally Posted By fkurucz And even the tourists aren't "full paying" as many have multiday hoppers.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<The lines actually weren't that bad. Waits were reasonable. I don't expect the parks to be empty when I'm there and to just walk up to any ride. I know Disney is a business and the more people they pack in, the more money they make. But even though the lines were reasonable, the park was still packed. It was bizarre. You'd think there'd be a correlation between line waits and sidewalk crowds. Not anymore.>> FastPass contributes to the park feeling more crowded. When people use FP, they have to go somewhere will they are waiting in that virtual line.
Originally Posted By onlyme >>For several years now I keep reading people online saying that Disney is going to reduce the number of APs. And year after year, I see nothing but evidence to the contrary. Payment plans, heavy promotion of APs.<< So True. I don't understand why some think this way. I also read time and time again that if Disney keeps raising the price of APs, it will bring the AP crowd down to a manageable level. That might be true...if only Disney were of the same mindset. But, they are not. They want more, more, and more APs. It's obvious by all of these promotions and ads around the park. Anyway, I'll stop getting one when it hits an even $1000. And as far as being disappointed in the crowds (too busy, so some of you don't want to go anymore). That's not gonna change. I hate crowds, but I don't find it unbearable, just really crowded. But, I don't travel thousands of miles and spend thousands of dollars, so I can see where some of you would be discouraged from going.
Originally Posted By lauriesk I just bought an deluxe annual pass for myself for a Christmas present. I am taking my (will be) 5 year old cousin for her birthday in May then I will be going back for the next Christmas season. I bought the pass for the discount Disneyland hotel prices (hopefully. After the next December visit I will be spending my tourist dollars in San Diego at the zoo, wild animal park and Seaworld. Disneyland is just getting too crowded for us out of staters to spend thousands of dollars for a weeks vacation. Ever since they instituted the monthly pay it has been too much. I love Disneyland but I love a relaxing vacation more so I will head an hour and a half south. Plus I am retired military so it will be less expensive hotel wise.
Originally Posted By Sparrow <<<Saturdays are the only way to go these days. Only us Premiums and full-paying tourists.>>> I have a Deluxe pass and we are free to go on Saturdays from 1/2 way through August to 1/2 way through March.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss teddibubbles, the only AP that you cannot buy are the southern California ones. Anyone can buy the Deluxe and Premium passes...you don't have to live in California, or even the United States.
Originally Posted By GMLSKIS Dang paid $174 for my pass that expired 3 days ago. Wasn't happy about the $20 increase in this pass but now another $25 before I get my next pass. Wasn't planning a trip till World of Color opens and would buy a new pass then. Now I might renew if not too late to save the $25 and plan a sooner trip. Everything going up except my income but I do love Disney so they will get my money anyway even if I hate the increases.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Everything going up except my income>> Welcome to the club, and one of the reasons (along with the now seemingly perpetual crowds) why we haven't been back for a while.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<I have a Deluxe pass and we are free to go on Saturdays from 1/2 way through August to 1/2 way through March.>> Yes, but that is only half the year. Deluxes are blocked out holiday Saturdays also.
Originally Posted By Sparrow ^^^We avoid the park a lot during the summer anyway and don't mind having to go on some Sundays to save money on a pass. It's the luxury of being local.
Originally Posted By Moderation I too have always avoided the park in the Summer 'to avoid the crowds' Sparrow, but I am moving into counter intuitive mode this year. I'm planning on doing the second half of June when SoCal APs go into blackout for wednesday-Saturday. We'll do Disney for Tuesday to Saturday then round out Sunday at SeaWorld. Reading things Al and Darkbeer have said, the summer peak day crowds may be smaller than off peak days with full AP access. I know Premiums and Deluxes can still get into the parks on those days, but let's face it, they aren't really the bulk of the problem.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt That's good strategy. I'm anxious to visit DLR this year to see WOC and I'm considering risking my sanity by visiting during the middle of the summer - something that I haven't done in over a decade. Can someone in the know advise which days of the week during the summer would be optimum to miss the hordes of AP folks?
Originally Posted By oneyepete Hans, You won't want to go during DL's birthday cause there are hoards of LPers there celebrating with mini meets and all.
