Originally Posted By RoadTrip If Disneyland is still around, it will be an ocean-front resort due to global warming...
Originally Posted By Bellella Is there a great big beautiful tomorrow? Will we make it ourselves, or just give up?
Originally Posted By oc_dean Maybe this generation - But we cannot speak for future generations. Anyone who tries - is selfish, and think only their generation matters for the rest of mankind! So, here's to future generations who'll be more positive than we are!
Originally Posted By phruby >>If Disneyland is still around, it will be an ocean-front resort due to global warming... I guess the strawberry field will become Disney Sea.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "Notice how people actually dressed up to go to Disneyland. It was an event. Not like now were if it barely covers you, your good. " I agree, but i dont think people should have to dress up in a suit to go to Disneyland. It would be torture wearing heavy clothing and sweating in 90 degree weather.
Originally Posted By oc_dean If this is how people dressed in DL in the 50s ... <a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7HT1oXI764/TzcdZiTQLZI/AAAAAAAAAE8/ARhKLtCnh6s/s1600/DL-55-Fantasyland-Clothes-WM.jpg" target="_blank">http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7HT...s-WM.jpg</a> And this is the scene 60 years later - <a href="http://land.allears.net/blogs/jdzgeek/2013/2013_05_17/IMG_7843.jpg" target="_blank">http://land.allears.net/blogs/...7843.jpg</a> I don't want to know .. what people will look like 100 years from now!
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Oh Dean come on, that second pic isn't at all bad or shocking. Take the color wheel out for a night on the town and just let all your worries melt away.
Originally Posted By fkurucz One thing that did stand out for me in the newer picture was the number of obese people.
Originally Posted By LP Watcher I would imagine that some time in the future, DIsney land will be designated a Historical Landmark and be protected. It will still be able to upgrades and updated, but under the strict control of a special Imagineering branch of a National Historic Landmark Stewards Association. No mater what, I don't see Disneyland going ANYWHERE as it is too important as a Historical Landmark. As far as what the park will contain, that's impossible to tell, but I would imagine that it will retain it's basic configuration
Originally Posted By mawnck >>One thing that did stand out for me in the newer picture was the number of obese people.<< Statistically speaking, most of them in the older picture probably smoked.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "Statistically speaking, most of them in the older picture probably smoked." Probably true.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>I would imagine that some time in the future, DIsney land will be designated a Historical Landmark and be protected.<< I have no idea if it's true, but I read many years ago that Main Street Station is a Historical Landmark, which is why they're able to avoid having an elevator. It is technically accessible, since guests in wheelchairs can board at TL, disembark at MS, look around the upper level, reboard, and disembark at NOS. It seems like they probably could have had it simply grandfathered in (I believe this is what's happened with the castle and treehouse, among other structures with stairs), and it would have been just fine too I have somewhat of a doubt about whether Disney would want the Feds interfering with their design. A lot of property owners try to avoid Historical designation, as it limits their ability to modify the property as they see fit. For example, instead of doing an addition that fits the style of the original (like brick add-on to a brick building), Historical properties are encouraged to make modifications that are clearly new, as to show the what the original structure would have looked like (while not in the US, the glass pyramids that create the entrance to the Louvre in Paris are a great example of this type of thought). Also, given that much of DL is old, but designed to look like it's from a different era, it would be really tough to determine what sort of preservation should be done, since it's all inherently fake.
Originally Posted By LP Watcher FerretAfros It doesn't matter what the content may look like, it's the whole package that is historically precious. It was THE park created by Walt Disney. It fits the definition that most historians associate with historical landmarks: Be the first, last, only, or most significant of its type in the state or within a large geographic region (Northern, Central, or Southern California). Be associated with an individual or group having a profound influence on the history of California. Be a prototype of, or an outstanding example of, a period, style, architectural movement or construction or is one of the more notable works or the best surviving work in a region of a pioneer architect, designer or master builder. As to whether Disney would want the Feds (or any historical entity) interfering with their design, I noted that there would be some sort of Imagineering type group that would maintain the Walt Disney Legacy in the park. Of course, if Disney ever decided that they no longer wanted to deal with parks at all (like the rumors of the 80's), then an outside entity would need to be there to protect it. Look at what happened to Knott's. Surprised that there wasn't an effort to protect it's heritage.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>One thing that did stand out for me in the newer picture was the number of obese people.<<< Why do you care enough to notice. Thin may be in, but, fat's where it's at! It's only your problem when you're the one that's obese, other wise don't worry be happy!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>It's only your problem when you're the one that's obese<< As a frequent airline passenger, I call shenanigans.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Be a prototype of, or an outstanding example of, a period, style, architectural movement or construction or is one of the more notable works or the best surviving work in a region of a pioneer architect, designer or master builder.<< To me, this is the big one that DL simply doesn't fit. While it was one of the first majorly themed construction jobs, it didn't really have much of a direct impact on construction styles. Yes, other amusement parks started to have more decoration, and eventually we got themed enterprises like the Rainforest Cafe, but it's hard to classify it as described above. Mostly, it's just a bunch of warehouses with movie sets glued to the outside, and some nice landscaping in between. While landscaped areas can be given Historical status, it's rare and very difficult to keep up. And while I like the idea of a group of Imagineers holding hands and 'protecting' the park, I think that the Historical status would do far more damage to the park's future than it would protect its past. As Walt is often quoted saying, DL is supposed to be constantly growing and evolving. In the last decade especially, they've pushed the park's history (which is admittedly important) at the expense of adding new and fresh experiences.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan ^^^^^ Given the option of Disney selling off the park to a company that has no interest in preserving what Walt created (or just selling to property for it's RE value), or having some historical society trying to maintain the integrity of Walt's intent, I'd go with making the park a historical landmark.
